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SUFIZTIC said:
Don't know if any of you know about the new law that just took affect in LA, but I'd think Twice about going to the street races out there!!!!!!!!!
Here's the Video from KTLA Channel 5:

http://ktla.trb.com/news/local/ktla-100604racingcrackdown,0,3493124.story
Couple nights ago there was a 2 car crash involving street racing here in ATL. The 2 cars clipped each other, sent what looked like a vw jetta into a pole and split in half. Both died in the vw and believe both were 17 or under. The other car was an accord, 16 year old, not a scratch on him and now charged with street racing/reckless driving/2 counts of vehicular homicide. I'd say his life is over much less worrying about his car getting crushed.
 

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Street Racing

Ever since F & F came out, everyone who was able to get there hands on keys wanted to race. Things here in Cali took a bad turn in the street racing scene and went out of control. Ever since then i've stopped going to street races and have taken it to the track. I'll admit, sometimes I'm driving on the Highway or street and if theres no traffic and the car is worth it, I'll give it a go but not under dangerous circumstances.

What do you guys think of this new Law???

I think good and bad because it will knock some since into some peeps and not good because more people are gonna run from the cops because they don't want there cars crushed and lose all the money invested into it.
 

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SO, does this mean that when they catch and take adrug dealers car, they gonna' crush that bitch too? It's only fair. I don't think street racing is what's killing, in matter of fact I KNOW it's not street racing that killing. It's young ass inexperienced drivers thinking they are F&F like some dumbasses. Then end up through a tree or in someone else windshield. They don't need to ban street racing and crush cars, they need to educate drivers. Drivers Ed. for example. That's not education, unless all you wanted to know was how to turn a steering wheel and push on a brake pedal. I've never seen any DE teach how to get out of a spin (realworld), react on water, ice, gravel, etc. They always teach:These are your keys, this is the steering wheel, this is the gas, this is the brake and so on and so forth. These dumb ass city governments are saying that it's all the kids and "racers" that are cuasing the trouble. NO, it's the inexperience. Everyone says take it to the track. Yeah, outfuckinstanding idea. BUT what if you are in some podunk town with no track within flying distance of civiliztion? You go to the street. There will always be a nice long flat piece of road that can be used for just that. Wide, no holes, no turns, no trees (most of the time) no people, no buildings on the sides, and sometimes barriers too. ALMOST sounds like a race track to me. I could be wrong. Plus they could close off the street for "racing" aka driving fast. Fuck, they close down streets for parades so people can drive slow as fuck with VERY illegal cars (floats). Why discriminate? Thought I'd drop my nickel in. Sorry bout the length, but I get on a roll sometimes.
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Yes - street racing IS doing the killing.

You blame young-ass inexperienced, dumbass drivers. Well, yes and no. There are lots of young-ass inexperienced drivers (just go to any high school parking lot) but that alone never killed anyone. Take that and add the street racing component and now you have a recipe for disaster.

Hell, even if John Force himself was behind the wheel, that still couldn't prevent some other driver / pedestrian / wildlife / etc. from wondering out in front of his car resulting in any one of a number of outcomes. The difference is the fact that Mr. force would know better than to street race. Other factors such as road condition, mechanical failure, etc. also come into play here as potential risks.

Sure a dedicated, closed-course would be great. Although I doubt many municipalities would actually go for it. The lack of an actual track still does not take away the risk involved in street racing. I just saw on the Vancouver BC news last night that a couple of "street racing fellows" of Asian decent were convicted in relation to a death which occurred when one of them lost control of his car and killed an innocent bystander. They are now actually being deported.

We've all had our share of "digs" on the street. But - honestly, how many times has this occurred on the type of road you describe (long, flat, wide, no holes, no turns, no trees, no people, no buildings with barriers)? Not very often, I'd bet.

There's my $.02 worth.
 

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Hm-m-m-m. I have a beef with the media's exploitation of this issue by exaggerating it. I've seen some instances where people were just driving fast and acting stupid. After they crash and die, it's suddenly called street racing cause it serves a media purpose. Ever see the way news vans sometimes haul ass chasing a news story? Now that's racing. When are they going to crush one of those?

The newscaster said someone was doing 150 MPH on Haskell. I live in the area. I'd sure like to know whose car can do that and on what portion of that road. Much less stop from that speed. That statement sounds like bull. Everyone involved in the process seems to have a stake in exaggerating the problem.

BTW, this is not to say street racing is a not problem. Just that by exaggerating the problem might serve a lot of other people's agendas - usually to keep kids from cruising and gathering in groups.
 

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ICouldaBeenAV8 said:
Hm-m-m-m. I have a beef with the media's exploitation of this issue by exaggerating it. I've seen some instances where people were just driving fast and acting stupid. After they crash and die, it's suddenly called street racing cause it serves a media purpose. Ever see the way news vans sometimes haul ass chasing a news story? Now that's racing. When are they going to crush one of those?

The newscaster said someone was doing 150 MPH on Haskell. I live in the area. I'd sure like to know whose car can do that and on what portion of that road. Much less stop from that speed. That statement sounds like bull. Everyone involved in the process seems to have a stake in exaggerating the problem.

BTW, this is not to say street racing is a not problem. Just that by exaggerating the problem might serve a lot of other people's agendas - usually to keep kids from cruising and gathering in groups.
The media and the cops like to exaggerate these type of problems for some reason. Like some stupid cop in Newport tried to give me a ticket for doing 60 in a parking lot. How the fuck am I gonna do 60 in a parking lot?
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There are two Mustangs currently scheduled to be crushed because they were seized during a street race. I don't think a few minutes of fun is worth losing your car and still paying the finance company for it.
 

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Crushing people's cars sounds like a major abuse. First, the term street racing is very broad. This is usually happening to the young - a group not politically organized nor with a lot of resources to fight back. So, society can extract an excessive punishment (cruel and unusual?) without any outcry.
 

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What will save more lives? Crushing drunk drivers cars or crushing street racer cars?

Drunk drivers kill more people any day of the week.

I am not saying street racing is acceptable, but it is definitely not worse than drinking and driving.
 

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I don't agree with the law either (too extreme)...but I would not want to lose my car. From what I understand the two guys who have the Mustangs have used their lawyers to temporarily halt the cars from being crushed...but California will make an example of them.
 

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Do you really think they'll crush the car when they can impound it, charge a grip for storage, then sell it if it's not picked up? It's not economically feasible for the city to crush potential cash cows. The cop was saying that to scare people from racing. I see nothing in the article citing a city ordinance allowing the city to crush a car without due process.

Haskell is a little narrow for top speed testing but on Hazeltine, if you start at the top of the hill on Plummer you can make some good speed before you get to Parthenia.
 

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gnat turner said:
Do you really think they'll crush the car when they can impound it, charge a grip for storage, then sell it if it's not picked up? It's not economically feasible for the city to crush potential cash cows. The cop was saying that to scare people from racing. I see nothing in the article citing a city ordinance allowing the city to crush a car without due process.

Haskell is a little narrow for top speed testing but on Hazeltine, if you start at the top of the hill on Plummer you can make some good speed before you get to Parthenia.

They are going to start crushing cars that are involved in street races and new strict laws will be enforced on spectators also. The two Mustangs owners have been in court for months trying to stop California from crushing the cars but it is still scheduled to happen. I am sure they will show the crushing on the news for all to see and have a press conference after.
 

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ICouldaBeenAV8 said:
Hm-m-m-m. I have a beef with the media's exploitation of this issue by exaggerating it. I've seen some instances where people were just driving fast and acting stupid. After they crash and die, it's suddenly called street racing cause it serves a media purpose. Ever see the way news vans sometimes haul ass chasing a news story? Now that's racing. When are they going to crush one of those?

The newscaster said someone was doing 150 MPH on Haskell. I live in the area. I'd sure like to know whose car can do that and on what portion of that road. Much less stop from that speed. That statement sounds like bull. Everyone involved in the process seems to have a stake in exaggerating the problem.

BTW, this is not to say street racing is a not problem. Just that by exaggerating the problem might serve a lot of other people's agendas - usually to keep kids from cruising and gathering in groups.

I agree with you.
 

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Heads Up

side note:
Cops were WAY in effect at Irwindale on Thursday...ground units + the bird...zero tolerance now...we ended up driving the speed limit the whole way home because they were comin out of nowhere
torrance crossroads got busted up last night (Friday) because 1) lots of stupid people trying to drift in the parking lot & burnouts & 2) torrance pd is now going up to groups of cars & telling them to pop the hood...i dunno if this is legal or not but a couple of cars got busted & hauled off on flat beds
again - another reason why you never want a civic
so for next week, anyone wanting to come out - call first before heading down...we bailed once tpd started hassling the hondas & ended up in the crappy stbx parking lot w/ the really really nice and welcoming subie guys...we promptly went home by 12:30
jackie o. :thumbsup:
 

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No, popping a hood and checking for parts and then seizing a car. A car that has aftermarket parts that are legal, cannot be touched. Period. Now if the car was equipped with parts that were illegal, then they can give a ticket for illegal equipment. But they aren't allowed to tow it. Unless of course that the vehicle in question was used in illegal activities. Then, depending on what the illegal activity was. A felony can have your car siezed. Street racing is not a felony. It is considered wreckless driving, and is only a minor traffic offense. Or misdemeanor. There's a lot of shit cops will do, when the people don't know what the law is. Now, in CA, just like it is here in OK, they are allowed to impound a vehicle that doesn't have insurance. At the officers discretion. Most of the time it's a ticket that gets thrown out if they did have ins. but not on them. IT's only when they were doing a lot of dumb shit without ins. that they impound the car. I'd write more, but I have more threads to look at.
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Too Crazy

Yeah, this law is way to extreme, I heard they did a big bust yesterday over in Anaheim. The guy said the whole parking lot was blocked with unmarked and marked vehicles and towed and cited quite a few cars.
 

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SUFIZTIC said:
Yeah, this law is way to extreme, I heard they did a big bust yesterday over in Anaheim. The guy said the whole parking lot was blocked with unmarked and marked vehicles and towed and cited quite a few cars.
Were they even racing or was it just a meet? That would pretty stupid if they just towed cars just for suspicion of racing if they weren't even doing that. WTF do cops want us to do, have meets at a track when we're not even gonna race? :flame:
 
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