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I've been looking around the 'net for drag strips and ovals in my area (PA and surrounding states) and it seems that every one of them requires a roll cage before they let you on the pavement. Am I just reading all of these sites wrong? Is this only for sanctioned race events? I would sooooo love to find a track to run my SRT-4 on but it doesn't seem possible without a roll cage. Is a cage something I should look into?
 

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Not sure if you are reading wrong or not. We don't have many tracks over here. More just drag strips. And if you plan on doing some heavy modifications, I'd HIGHLY suggest the rollcage. Most drag strips and tracks require you to have one to run if you are so fast. Maybe call the places you looked at and ask them?
 

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most race tracks around here require a rollcage of (i think) 6 point or higher to just run on it.
 

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Drat! Foiled by the cage? Sounds like a major endeavour to put one in. Anyone with experience doing this? Expensive to buy/have someone else install? (Since I have zero experience doing this?) Who sells/installs these things? (Man, I'm just full of questions today! LOL) Thanks guys...
 

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bahaha...oh well the joys of living in FL here if you run this side of a 13.5 i think (dont quote me) you are roll cage material
 

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they arent expensive to buy (depending on what you consider expensive) but i dont know about install.
 

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Y'all crazy?

I have never been to a dragstrip that required a cage for running a street car. If you're under 13 sec, they may require a cage, and I think they require a helmet when you get to 13's, but you should be safe in stock trim for now.

As far as road courses or ovals, It depends on what you're doing. If you're taking a school (good idea) or a track day (non-competition) it is very very rare for them to requir a cage.

There is always my favorite, Autocross, which you will never need a cage (in the SRT at least) and they will loan you a helmet. Check www.scca.org for more info.
 

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I don't know about the drag tracks in PA but in Houston no cage is needed until 11.99 or lower, a 6 point cage is required then, a 10 point for 9.99 & lower. You will pay about $1000-1500 for a quality 6 pt cage. I do not reccomend installing one unless you will be regular at the track. Getting in & out is a pain plus it will add weight. Even if you can get your SRT in the 11's before taking it to the track, the track tech guys won't ever think it's possible. You can run an 11.99 or faster once, then they will warn you not to do it again. You could also run at full throttle then apply the brake or let off the gas just before the finish line to avoid going 11.99.
 

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I've never heard of one needing a cage just to get on the track. I know at Gateway, if you have a vert or you're under 14 secs they require a helmet and if you're under 12 they require the cage. IMO I wouldn't put a cage in unless it was absolutely necessary, they're a pain in the ass plus you're gonna look stupid if you don't have the performance to go along with the cage.

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ohyeahwright said:
I've been looking around the 'net for drag strips and ovals in my area (PA and surrounding states) and it seems that every one of them requires a roll cage before they let you on the pavement. Am I just reading all of these sites wrong? Is this only for sanctioned race events? I would sooooo love to find a track to run my SRT-4 on but it doesn't seem possible without a roll cage. Is a cage something I should look into?
I'd like to find a legal place to race too. I live in Virginia. Here's a racetrack in Maryland, near Annapolis, that might be good for both of us. They have races for street cars every Friday night starting in April, just $15. They don't say anything about roll cages. The only thing that concerns me, is the rule that says "all cars must have mufflers". Hmm.... ;-)

http://www.mirdrag.com/classrules/midnightm.htm
 

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I ran today and I'll be getting the video up as soon as we figure out how to get it on the computer with the sound. If you race on an NHRA track over 14 seconds you don't need a helmet. 13.99 and below you do. 12 seconds and slower you don't need a roll cage. 11.99 and faster you do.
 

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I ran today and I'll be getting the video up as soon as we figure out how to get it on the computer with the sound. If you race on an NHRA track over 14 seconds you don't need a helmet. 13.99 and below you do. 12 seconds and slower you don't need a roll cage. 11.99 and faster you do.
I assume you ran your SRT today, if so what were your #'s? If you ran something else we'd like to know those also. Thanks!
 

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MOROSO and Orlando Speed world:

in the 13, you need a helmet. If you are 11.9 you need a cage.

Below 10 you need another cage with more support.
 

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most race tracks around here require a rollcage of (i think) 6 point or higher to just run on it.
Think again, or at least do your infamous google search for out of context information.

You've got to be a lot faster than a stock SRT-4 (even on the stock tires that your so fond of lid) to need a cage on the dragstrip.

On a roadcourse, unless you've got the ultra-rare convertible SRT-4, you're not going to need a cage. The SRT-4 is not legal for any form of roadracing (do the google search again) this year, and driver schools/lapping days don't require cages if the roof is hard.

I almost feel bad about the tone of this message, but sometimes people should refrain from posting when they are just going to make up answers (with a lame "i think" disclaimer) to perfectly legitimate questions from people who may have an actual intention of doing something decent with their car.

Life is Death, I'm planning to be at Summit Point in early April for a FATT (Friday At The Track) event testing the new Onelap car. You should take the day off from school to come out and participate. Other than the stock block Saturn that we'll be sorting out, which car should I bring to compare lap times with you? Do you prefer the Stock, on OEM tires, WRX wagon, or the 97 ACR with tires that have been on the car since 1998? All you'll need is an SA95 helmet and a car or truck...

edit: the ACR is a SOHC, you know the econobox version....
 

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"Organizers: SCCA (Sports Car Club of America) Road Racing

Series: MARRS (Mid-Atlantic Road Race Series)

Level: Washington, D.C. Regional Road Racing

Description: Only a few car modifications were allowed. Roll cage and safety equipment were required. Competition tires and brake pads were allowed. Air conditioning, airbags and radio were allowed to be removed. Otherwise, the car remained in original condition. The race was highly competitive and the cars were closely matched."


if you are there for a track day then you wont NEED a cage. if you are going to race in scca you will. i thought he wanted to race, not just do a track day.

'Roll bars, helmets and seat belt/shoulder harness combinations are required in Solo I just as they are in racing. "

"Roll Cage Requirements:New roll cage requirements for non-FIA cages will be in effect for cars logbooked after 12-31-02.Vehicles logbooked prior to 12-31-02 will operate under the current rules. The tubing sizes will be based on the weight of the car. In addition, there are some changes in construction methods, padding, materials and welding requirements included in this new requirement. Bolt-in roll cages will not be allowed. For further information please contact Doug Robinson ([email protected]) "


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You've got to be a lot faster than a stock SRT-4 (even on the stock tires that your so fond of lid) to need a cage on the dragstrip.
where was i talking about a dragstrip? and why am i fond of stock tires?
and if i had the car i would take you up on your race offer, although all of your onelap stickers may make your car way too fast for me.
 

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I'd like to find a legal place to race too. I live in Virginia. Here's a racetrack in Maryland, near Annapolis, that might be good for both of us. They have races for street cars every Friday night starting in April, just $15. They don't say anything about roll cages. The only thing that concerns me, is the rule that says "all cars must have mufflers". Hmm.... ;-)

http://www.mirdrag.com/classrules/midnightm.htm
Many thanks for the link, drolander. I emailed them about the muffler requirement thing and they wrote back that resonators would be fine :wink:

Think I may just have to take a Friday off this spring and mosey on down there...
 

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Sorry about hijacking the thread ohyeahright....

Life is Dead, once again you've proved that you can do a google search for out of context information. Please point out the SCCA roadracing class that the SRT-4 fits into. If I wanted the rollcage spec, I'd have looked in my SCCA rulebook. I'll save you some time, the SRT-4 isn't classed by the SCCA for roadracing. It missed the printing of the 2003 rulebook. There's a chance that it will be picked up in FasTrack as an addendum, but that will be for SoloII, with an outside chance that SoloI will have a slot for it this year.

I knew you'd be confused by the stock tire comment, you waffle back and forth in your arguements so much that you have trouble keeping track of your position. Several times you've asked for timeslips and/or races on stock WRX tires. Something like, "Yeah, but what do they run on stock tires?"

Get a grip, you haven't the faintest idea what it takes to race or lap a car, but you just can't stand not spewing some sort of misinformation.

A smart man would walk away from the thread at this point, I'm looking forward to seeing you post again. See if you can figure out the insult...
 

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Onelap said:
Sorry about hijacking the thread ohyeahright....

Life is Dead,
if you dont want to hijack the thread, then why dont you take it to pm's? and life is dead? wow, that was utter genious. i bet that took about 5 minutes for you to come up with, how happy you must be with your self.

once again you've proved that you can do a google search for out of context information.
first off it wasnt a google search. second, how was it out of context?

Please point out the SCCA roadracing class that the SRT-4 fits into. If I wanted the rollcage spec, I'd have looked in my SCCA rulebook. I'll save you some time, the SRT-4 isn't classed by the SCCA for roadracing. It missed the printing of the 2003 rulebook. There's a chance that it will be picked up in FasTrack as an addendum, but that will be for SoloII, with an outside chance that SoloI will have a slot for it this year.
have you actually talked to them about where the srt-4 would be?

I knew you'd be confused by the stock tire comment, you waffle back and forth in your arguements so much that you have trouble keeping track of your position. Several times you've asked for timeslips and/or races on stock WRX tires. Something like, "Yeah, but what do they run on stock tires?"
obviously you dont even read my posts. how do i waffle back and forth by asking what a stock wrx does in the 1/4?

Get a grip, you haven't the faintest idea what it takes to race or lap a car, but you just can't stand not spewing some sort of misinformation.
well, thats funny, being as how you dont know me. sounds like you are spewing some bullshit to try and make yourself feel better about your one-lap car.

A smart man would walk away from the thread at this point,
so since you are smart enough to come up with life is dead, then i guess you wont be posting here anymore. take it to pm's if you want to try any harder. stop hijacking threads.
 
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