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make it a poll, and IPP
 

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s3 wont handle like ipp.. the springs are not as stiff... but mopar makes for a softer ride..

ipps are good for tracks and better handling, but not as soft..
 

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so IPP's huh...

how cheap can i get a set? Ray sells them I take it?
IPP's are sold through the other vendors on this forum, Exhaust Depot being 1 of them, but he doesn't list them on his website, you can hit him up with a PM and ask him for the price. modernperformance is another vendor with the IPP's
 

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SIII's are rebuildable through KW, and now that SIIIr's are coming out you'll be able to put stiffer springs on the SIII's since mopar is releasing a large variety of spring rates. I already did this, purchased 342lb front springs for my sIII's from KW about 3 months ago, so my setup is 342lb front/250lb rear. The car is very stiff, has little body roll, and handle's quite well. Keep in mind as well that mopar's lightweight car runs a normal setup on their SIII's, and managed slightly over 1g on the skidpad.
 

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Dark, do you know the maximum allowable spring rate for the stage3's before they need to get revalved. My guess is that the stage3R have different internal valving to handle a higher spring rate. Thanks in advance.
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easy for me because i have the IPP's. I love them and wouldn't trade them for anything else! The handleing is like night & day from stock (and the CO's is the only thing I changed so far!)

Spring rates for available SRT-4 CO's

IPP Coilovers

FRONT: 336 lb/in
REAR: 224 lb/in.

Mopar/K&W's Coilovers

FRONT: 257 lb/in
REAR: 171 lb/in.

Tein Coilovers

FRONT: 280 lb/in.
Rear: 280 lb/in.
 

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I think what you have to ask is what type of driving do you do most and what kind of ride do you want. I went with the S3's because of a rediculous price. I was looking at the IPP, but it seems it was a better track set up. Now I think the mopars will be great for the street and you will still be able to track them. Just my .02. I will write a reivew of the S3's when I get around to putting them on. I just put on the Hotchicks sways and it made a tone of difference with the body roll.
 

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Dark04 said:
SIII's are rebuildable through KW, and now that SIIIr's are coming out you'll be able to put stiffer springs on the SIII's since mopar is releasing a large variety of spring rates. I already did this, purchased 342lb front springs for my sIII's from KW about 3 months ago, so my setup is 342lb front/250lb rear. The car is very stiff, has little body roll, and handle's quite well. Keep in mind as well that mopar's lightweight car runs a normal setup on their SIII's, and managed slightly over 1g on the skidpad.
They realized a 1g with R compound rubber. Not standard street rubber. When someone sees 1g on street rubber thats the set up I will run.
 

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matt...i drive it silly...silly i tell ya'.
i don't need to go to the track, i'm silly like that.
did i mention how silly i am?

nah man...just looking for a good fookin' coil over, that's all. It don't matter how or where I'm gonna be whippin' turns, fact is i'm gonna...so i need a good coilover.

IPP's lookin better and better from what i've been reading, specs, adjustability, price...the fact that i love Ray, etc etc.
 

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i have the ipps, the ride is nice, handles and looks great, and is much more adjustable than the mopars i think.. they only have 16 way adjustability, correct?

and i know the ipps can adjust for height much more than the mopars
 

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I'm leaning towards the IPP's mainly because my car is more for street racing and road racing. I don't give a rats ass how the ride is in my car.
 

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I bought the 342lb springs direct from KW, and according to the techs there there was no need to revalve the shocks on the S3's to run that rate, and I was told that even stiffer springs could be used before revalving was necessary, although I didn't pursue it any further than that because my car is still a daily driver, and the 342f/257r (I switched front to rear and replaced the fronts) make it stiffer than the IPP's already.
 

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From what ive seen, the IPPs loose way too much rear suspension travel as compared to Tein, mopar/kw.

Correct me if im wrong. Thats why i didnt purchase their set.

I have Tein SS, and i have an oversteer condition, due to too stiff rear springs, too large rear sway, and street alignemnt specs.

I figured either Teins ot the Mopars, id have to swap the springs for different rates to get what i wanted, and both products have widely available spring rates that work with them, i just so happened to come accross teins at the time and i coudlnt pass them up.

I will probally be upgrading my front spring rate to 350# in the near future, as i can feel the rear end is way stiffer than the front.

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The suspension travel lost was equal over all 4 wheels pretty much, its not so much that the wheels come off the ground at autocrosses, etc. id have to say on a pretty low setting, the wheels drop 3-4 inches at least, id have to measure to be sure
 
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