Saw one running at the track.....low 13's on a brand new neon. Very impressed by how this thing scoots. It doesn't look as good as my WRX but I think I'm going to get one these because the WRX is getting too expensive and is still not that fast. how much do these go for at the dealership? If its too expensive, I'll go with the EVO 8 and get 275HP stock.