[Croation]

Well, i really am starting to worry about this car. And im going to need some back up cars to think about if this car is out of my reach. SO
Does anyone know some really good buys on some nice sporty mid size sedans? most likly under 20-23k?
The only cars im looking at right now is the SRT-4 and the Mazda 6

 

[QwikSC2]

My personal backup is the Nissan Sentra SE-R Spec V. I already have test drove it and it is a great car for the money. I have never driven a car with limited slip, and it was great flooring it through corners...no wheel spin at all. It also handles like a champ. I punished that car and it was taking it. The only thing I didn't like was the torque steer in 1st and 2nd gear...but it'd be easy to get used to. The aftermarket is just now getting into the Spec V, and there's a couple kits out there already that have made it look sweet. It earned my respect and is my #2 choice behind the SRT-4.

 

[cali]

spec v

I ran a guy with a spec v one night..about 5-6 runs.
that shit is tight!!
Especially with the 6 speed tranny. and for around 17K, i say cannot beaten, unlesss u throw another 3K and get the SRT I know it can beat the RSX-s easily!

Aftermarket will come for it soon.


Cali

 

[Slow5OH]

Re: spec v

I ran a guy with a spec v one night..about 5-6 runs.
that shit is tight!!
Especially with the 6 speed tranny. and for around 17K, i say cannot beaten, unlesss u throw another 3K and get the SRT I know it can beat the RSX-s easily!

Aftermarket will come for it soon.


Cali

Yeah if not the SRT I'd go for the SE-R, although I kind of doubt it could beat a RSX-S.

-Faast

 

[drizze99]

Cro, don't even think of the Mazda 6. I have a good friend that is a service writer for our area's largest volume Mazda dealer and he said they suck. He said a lot of people are coming back with problems and they can't even fix them because Mazda hasn't sent them the shop manuals and they don't know what the problem codes mean yet. He already had 3 people ask him if the dealer will buy the car back from them. He said 2 weeks ago one came of the car carrier with the oil pan on wrong and there was oil everywhere but inside the motor. IMO, I think the mod-ability of a car is important along with how well made the stock internals are. The Spec-V and MazdaSpeed are good looking cars, but from what I understand the stock internals can't handle much more hp than it already has. IMO (I hope I don't get flamed to hard :twisted: ) the next best thing is a WRX. I am a big fan of the boxter style motor and the car has a lot of potential. Oh, by the way, that mazda dealer I was talking about above also used to be a Subie dealer and they still have a 2002 white WRX for $12,999. The only problem is, it was a salesman's demo and he lost control of it and the passenger side got up close and personal with a bunch of trees!! The dealer fixed it completely, but the car will never be the same.

 

[ebbtide]

IMO (I hope I don't get flamed to hard :twisted: ) the next best thing is a WRX. .

Why whould you get flamed? If i wasn't getting an SRT, i'd get a WRX - their great cars.

 

[lifeisdeath]

same here, if i wasnt getting the srt-4 it would be the wrx for me too.

 

[RUgoinUp]

Don't forget me to!

 

[Wolfsslayer]

A backup suggestion

I myself am a tad worried about the dealership raising the price for the car so I've been looking at the Spec V and the Stratus R/T as backup cars.. your thought?? :wink:

 

[Slow5OH]

Re: A backup suggestion

I myself am a tad worried about the dealership raising the price for the car so I've been looking at the Spec V and the Stratus R/T as backup cars.. your thought?? :wink:

Uggh a Stratus R/T.... I know you guys are all Dodge fans but I am just gonna come out and say, the new Stratus's suck. I'd say get an RSX or a Spec V.

-faast

 

[drizze99]

Re: A backup suggestion

I myself am a tad worried about the dealership raising the price for the car so I've been looking at the Spec V and the Stratus R/T as backup cars.. your thought?? :wink:

Uggh a Stratus R/T.... I know you guys are all Dodge fans but I am just gonna come out and say, the new Stratus's suck. I'd say get an RSX or a Spec V.

-faast

The Stratus R/T is a re-skinned mitsu eclipse. The car isn't even made by DC/Dodge. They are built at the same assembly plant that pumps out the eclipse's. The Chrysler Sebring coupe is also an eclipse.

Slow, I'm really surprised at your comments. You would get the 2 cars you mentioned over a WRX?

 

[Slow5OH]

Re: A backup suggestion

I myself am a tad worried about the dealership raising the price for the car so I've been looking at the Spec V and the Stratus R/T as backup cars.. your thought?? :wink:

Uggh a Stratus R/T.... I know you guys are all Dodge fans but I am just gonna come out and say, the new Stratus's suck. I'd say get an RSX or a Spec V.

-faast

The Stratus R/T is a re-skinned mitsu eclipse. The car isn't even made by DC/Dodge. They are built at the same assembly plant that pumps out the eclipse's. The Chrysler Sebring coupe is also an eclipse.

Slow, I'm really surprised at your comments. You would get the 2 cars you mentioned over a WRX?

If I were limited to the relative price range of the SRT and they decided to fuck with the prices, those would be the two cars I would consider along with the Subaru 2.5RS . Although you are correct, I would rather have the WRX if I were given the financial option.

I find the SE-R quite appealing though. From everything I have heard, they are fun little cars with buckets of torque. I'm not so sure about the regular RSX though.

-faast

 

[Croation]

So the 6 is that bad?? sheesh, well ill go and try the nissan Sentra.

 

[Grunge]

Yeah, I know I said I wouldn't post anymore until the SRT's arrived, but I can't help it. Originally, I was going to get a Spec V. I test drove it, did some research and really liked it. I even had the loan ready to make the purchase. I happened to pick up a Sports Compact Magazine and the rest is history. If, by any chance I find the SRT4 disagreeable when they finally arrive, I will go with the Spec V. I currently have a 2000 Sentra and besides the lack of horsepower, I really like it.

 

[Dale Seeley]

I'll take a chance on getting flamed for making WRX comments...
I have one, and it's not *fun* to drive on the street. I got on a waiting list for it, waited, paid MSRP, and now only drive it when we're going someplace as a family. My wife uses it as a daily driver to commute.

On the track, it's a lot of fun, and in a low traction environment it's fun to play with. On dry pavement, it's not so much fun... It doesn't misbehave on dry pavement, but you can't drive it the way it needs to be driven on the street without risking killing other people...

I know everyone is enamoured with zero to sixty, 60 ft, and 1/4 mile times, but that is truely boring in a WRX. Add in wicked lag on the street when you can't stay in the powerband safely, understeer when you don't dare use a lift throttle to rotate the car, and it gets downright frustrating.

A couple months ago in my first post to the .org SRT forum, I said I was waiting for the SRT-4 because I couldn't justify completing the 2.4 swap into one of my first gens, then adding the turbo when I could buy the car from the factory with a warranty. This car is going to be fun to drive on the street, it's going to be very annoying for the corvettes, M3's, Porsche, and Viper on the road courses who want to stay in front of it.

Even if it runs the same times on the road courses as the WRX, the SRT-4 will be a lot more fun there. Add in the "just a neon" factor and it just gets better. Everyone expects a race-bred rally car to do well, there's no shame in being hunted down and passed by a WRX, but it kills the C5 driver who has to 'point by' a Neon when he was sure the car would just fade out of his rearview...

I'll wait as long as it takes for the SRT-4. Our Subie dealership has new WRX's on the lot, and he's offered to sell below MSRP, but I already made that mistake.

If something wierd happened, and the SRT-4 never became available, I'd buy my co-drivers turbo miata for a lot less than a new SRT-4. It wouldn't have a warranty, but it's fast, fun, and just as disposable. But through the end of summer, I'll wait for the SRT-4....at MSRP

Dale

 

[craigd]

For me I'm not interested in any other car coming out this year other then the SRT-4. Only other cars that interest me are far away the PT Cruiser Convertible and then the STI until then I'm keeping my Neon

 

[ebbtide]

I'll take a chance on getting flamed for making WRX comments...

Dale

Dale, I completely agree with you. I think the shear torque on hand will make the SRT an incredibly fun car to play around with - and a wrx, at least the two i test drove - just don't match that feeling of 250lbs-ft of torque pulling like a freight train. My buddy has an e36 M3 Dinan (suspension, ecu, intake, exhaust)- a VERY fun car to drive. But I was once luckly enough to get a ride in an SRT, and I can tell you that it pulls just as hard as that M3

 

[lifeisdeath]

[quote="ebbtide]My buddy has an e36 M3 Dinan (suspension, ecu, intake, exhaust)- a VERY fun car to drive. But I was once luckly enough to get a ride in an SRT, and I can tell you that it pulls just as hard as that M3 [/quote]

now thats what i like to hear! :twisted:

 

[cali]

Re: spec v

I ran a guy with a spec v one night..about 5-6 runs.
that shit is tight!!
Especially with the 6 speed tranny. and for around 17K, i say cannot beaten, unlesss u throw another 3K and get the SRT I know it can beat the RSX-s easily!

Aftermarket will come for it soon.


Cali

Yeah if not the SRT I'd go for the SE-R, although I kind of doubt it could beat a RSX-S.

-Faast

Well, the same Spec-V told me he roasted the rsx-s over and over. Could have been drivers, but I'm pretty sure, it was just raw power.

 

[QwikSC2]

I'm glad the Spec is gettin' some respect here. Everyone else is just like, "It's just a Sentra." Yeah, and the SRT-4 is "just a Neon."

I would get the RSX-S, but with it being Acura and high theft, insurance would kill me.

So far I have gotten a quote from USAA (military insurance company) with a SRT-4 and my 93 Saturn SC2. Quotes are married rate. I'm 24 with a clean record, and she's 19 with 1 accident (less than $500 damage).

$985.86 -- full coverage on both
$806.13 -- full coverage on SRT-4, liability on SC2

Pretty good, I'd say. Can't wait 'til Halloween, though. That's when I turn 25 (insurance rate drops) and also so I can scare the hell outta all the riceburners in town...wait, I'll be doing that all year!!! :lol: