[Terminator]

Yeah yeah, I know no one probably knows, but thought I might ask anyway. Stage II sounds really nice and I hear stage III is illegal for street use, but hey...Florida has no emissions, muahahaha :twisted: . So does anybody know of any websites or anyone at all who might know the stage prices, even if it's just a rough estimate??

 

[lifeisdeath]

did you also know that it is illegal to go above the posted speed limit?

or to participate in a display of speed on the street. (burning rubber, leaving fast from a light)

just thought id let you know

 

[SpitterGuy]

Yeah, the burning rubber I got already, but leaving quickly from the light is a new one on me... and I always do it at a light. Next time there's a cop behind me, I'm gonna hunch over, whip out my buck teeth, and slowly accelerate, wonder if they'll pull me over for that? Have they even come out with the staged upgrades yet. I haven't seen info on it or anything really. Just know there's three stages and what they basically do. Anyone find anything on the web yet or asked a their dealer?

 

[lifeisdeath]

if you go significantly faster then all other traffic at a light. they can get you for street racing, racing who you ask? racing yourself... talk about a load of bullshit. but 99% of cops wont pull you over for that.

about the staged upgrades... a guy on the .org said that april will be stage I, june stage II, and i think he said november for stage III. but i dont know if those are the exact dates.

 

[Exhaust Depot]

stage 3 is offroad only for the fact that the main cat is replaced. YOu can get stage 3 ecu upgrade etc and leave the cat. or you can get a highflow cat.

I will be offering 3" and 2.5" highflow bolt on cats soon.

 

[mrmixitup]

There are no prices yet from Mopar. They haven't yet released final pricing.

Here is what is supposed to be included in each stage:

 

[Samel_Camel]

I know what a MAP sensor is...


What's a TIP sensor?

Also, what is an I-Pipe?


Please answer with facts, not speculation. I don't want these questions thrown off....


Thanks!

 

[meddle]

Samel, what is a MAP sensor? Ive seen a number of people talk about them but I wasnt able to really catch exactly what they do.

 

[Charles]

an i-pipe is the intermediate pipe. on f-body's, it's the pipe that goes from the cat to the muffler.

 

[riceetr]

MAP stands for Manifold Absoloute Presure sensor. basically its a MAF just like most other cars use or a speed density until older cars tend to use. does the same thing.

 

[meddle]

So how does getting a different pressure sensor increase your performance? Maybe the new one allows more pressure or something?

 

[Kyle]

So how does getting a different pressure sensor increase your performance? Maybe the new one allows more pressure or something?

If you just put in a new MAP sensor that will read higher pressures it will throw off your whole fuel curve, possibly resulting in engine damage. The computer has to be calibrated for the MAP sensor, and the fact that MOPAR includes a completely new computer for each performance stage leads me to believe that a simple computer re-calibration is not possible.

On to another subject I think the "I-pipe" is simply the down pipe. If you look at the pics of the cutaway engine the piece of exhaust tubing that bolts between the manifold/turbo and the rest of the exhaust you will notice it has flanges on each end, making it look like an "I". I could be wrong, that is just my guess.

 

[cali]

Actually I doubt they are going give a new ecu of every upgrade. More than likely it will be a *chip* or *on site* ECU re-programming.

 

[lifeisdeath]

it is supposed to be a re-program of the ecu at the delaer.

 

[Ghoste]

I hear stage III is illegal for street use

Its illegal to run stop signs and do 100+ down a back street though :shock:


GET THE STAGE III! HEY AT LEAST ULL BE ABLE TO RUN FROM COPS! :lol:

 

[PB Pod]

Stage III has a Cat replacement pipe. May not run without a cat, but can.

 

[lifeisdeath]

Stage III has a Cat replacement pipe. May not run without a cat, but can.

??? i hope you arent trying to say it wont run without a cat!??

 

[PB Pod]

No. However, I believe there is a secondary O2 senser in the cat the must also be in the replacement pipe. I know there are ways to use resisters to fool the ECU into believeing there is a cat.

 

[Samel_Camel]

I found an answer. TIP stands for "Throttle Inlet Pressure."

 

[Kyle]

Actually I doubt they are going give a new ecu of every upgrade. More than likely it will be a *chip* or *on site* ECU re-programming.

Dodg computers don't work with *chips*, but it could be a re-programming. I was just going by what the SEMA pics say.