I remember hearing about the ticket in that thread. Unfortunately, the guys handling that stuff wouldn't know much more than any dcx mechanic, most of the time, they just have good resources.srtRICEkiller said:I actually called the dodge/ chrysler guys and had a ticket escalated to obtain info about our "stock spoiler". They said it doesn't work
On the lines of this...^^^slo-car said:i remember when "wings" on compact cars were referred to as "gas saver spoilers". we can all type what we think, but nobody will believe each other. an eclipse i had got worse mileage with the spoiler off (read: removing the spoiler slightly raised the coefficient of drag). i'd be willing to assume that dodge is using a gas saver spoiler to lower the drag of the vehicle. very slight downforce could just be a byproduct of wind going over that spoiler at high speeds.
Yeah, that's what I'm wondering. Maybe when I make this long trip (1200 miles) I should do part with the wing and part without just to see. There may be WAY too many factors to consider though...paeva said:^ that may help cut down on the drag, helping mpg, but I wouldn't count on it changing the mileage more than a fraction of a mpg. If your mileage goes up without the wing it is probably do to you effectively removing 50+ pounds (the down force created at whatever speed).
All good points. But, I beg to differ. I have done long flat out runs _(even in the states, Iball) - I averaged over 130mph for a 30 minute time period a couple weeks ago. I don't do it often, but when the oppty. is there, who am I to say no. I feel that it makes a difference. I think part of the difference between here and there is the fact that the autobahn is paved properly. the road surface and its roughness over here might contribute to the difference.iball said:Wind tunnels. Wow.
Salt flats. Cute.
Test tracks. Big whoop.
Race circuit tracks with lots of curves? Meh, might help, might not.
As some of us "overseas" people can tell you from REAL WORLD experience driving at HIGH SPEEDS (read: more than the lil' 140 blip you guys hit on a back road in the states for like 15 seconds) the stock wing and the SXT wing - for me at least - have the same exact effect on handling. Others run MOPAR S3 coilovers with NO WING at all and the wing removal had no effect on high speed handling.
Seriously. All the damn MOPAR/DCx engineers in the WORLD can come on here and say this and that but NONE of them have driven an SRT-4 on the autobahns.
Myself - and others like me - have. And trust me, the ruckenwind coming down onto the autobahns over ALSO plays a part. If you can't frickin' drive, don't blame it on lack of a wing. Blame it on your piss-poor driving ability.
I've been driving these autobahns for a little over ten years now.
Jesus H. Christ, why don't some of these posters just SEARCH the damn forums anymore?
This topic has been officially beaten to DEATH. Someone lock this fscking thread already.
How about this, smartass:Main_Event said:iball how bout you stfu then. keep your angry ass over seas and moderate these nuts. overseas mods cant ban right?
True on that one about the varying road surfaces.posthondaremoval said:All good points. But, I beg to differ. I have done long flat out runs _(even in the states, Iball) - I averaged over 130mph for a 30 minute time period a couple weeks ago. I don't do it often, but when the oppty. is there, who am I to say no. I feel that it makes a difference. I think part of the difference between here and there is the fact that the autobahn is paved properly. the road surface and its roughness over here might contribute to the difference.