Is there anyone in here that is in the 12's. I am talking about no nitrous, just motor and turbo. Even then, I bet I could count on one hand how many guy are running mid to low 13's. I dont understand were you all get the idea that the SRT4 is "THE FASTEST CAR EVAR". I wouldnt mind driving one. I have no problem with them. I just dont understand what you guys problems are with the WRX. It is going to be hard for anyone in here to keep consistent 12's ON THE STREET. Maybe with slicks on the track. But, the street is where most of you talk about racing. I just think that we WRX guys need to give you all respect for having a fast car, and I think that WRX's deserve respect as well. They are both fast cars for 4 cylinder motors stock for stock. Everyone just needs to chill on this crap.