HELP on Sway Bars

almost lost control w/ the 22mm rear only? odd.

my setup:

ebay strut bars F/R
tokico illuminas set to 5 all around
mopar springs
ES master bushing kit
progress 22mm rear SB.

it is VERY neutral handling w/ a touch of oversteer, unless you force it.

i know it scared you, but learn to drive the car. learn its limits, and know your boundaries. and w/ that, the way you perceive the cars handling will extremely change.

if you didnt like the oversteer, i suggest just getting the PT front sway. a 29mm front is overkill, especially w/o a larger rear sway.

if you get the pt front, it should make the suspension remain pretty neutral handling for you, though i believe the the 22mm rear only is extremely controllable. but everyone drives diff.

26mm front, 19mm rear. I'd like to get the car on a rack and swap back to the stock front bar. I'd like to get a little better weight transfer and less understeer from mid corner to the exit and with what I have available this is the best option for me. Tire pressures are at their prime and the only thing I could do would be play with alignments and I don't have the ability to play with that and test it in a reasonable timeframe. With the current setup it does understeer in most situations, but I was able to get a hint of rotation at the last event in a couple of corners, and the slaloms were damn good. Only problem was getting weight shifted under braking and transitions (think high speed offset followed by a tight 90° turn) and then getting the power down out of a few turns. The course was a little dusty from mid corner to exit from race tire guys laying down rubber and creating marbles all day so that was my main problem with the creation of understeer on corner exit. It's much easier for me to dial out and deal with oversteer when at an event than try to get rid of understeer while keeping the tires from overheating.

SlowSRT05 said:

Well i took a turn that wasn't to sharp at a good speed and it started to oversteer pretty bad, the car actually drifted LOL i regained control but it wasn't fun. So i figured adding a larger sway bar will even it out. I might pick up a 29mm hotchkis but how would the car act with a 29mm-22mm setup?

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Once I figure out the friggin' TLLTD equation, I can tell you how much understeer you have on your car with all of those mods. But I can tell you how much oversteer you're getting through sway bars.

By moving from the stock rear 17 mm to 22 mm, you increased stiffness over stock by 180%. Your front sway bar is now stiffer than your rear by 42%. When you were running the rear 17 mm and front 24 mm, your front sway bar was 297% stiffer than the rear. You will want to be in the 150% range to be safe.

If you get only the Hotchkis front 29 mm sway, they will be stiffer than your rear 22 mm sway by 202%.
But if you get both front Hotchkis sway and rear sway (29 mm/ 24 mm) the fronts will be stiffer than the rear by either 161% (rear at softest setting) or 128% (rear at stiffest setting).

Currently with your stock front sway, you've put your car very close to 50% TLLTD which means brink of oversteer everytime you turn the wheel. And this type of oversteer is serious enough that you may possibly not be able to correct it through opposite lock. So I wouldn't recommend messing around on the street until you get bigger front sways. But you probably already figured that out. lol