Final word on oil filter?

srt4evah · Apr 29, 2003

So is the filter we want to use the K&N HP-2009 for sure? I looked but I didn't find that thread now, just thought I'd ask again. I'm up for the 1st change in about a week.

bubba · Apr 29, 2003

I don't know how the quality on all K&N oil filters are, but I will never buy one for a diesel dodge pickup. I know a diesel mechanic who works for Cummins and they got a ram with less than 10,000 miles in with a dead engine. The cause was one of the piston oil squirters got plugged with a piece of something that got past the K&N oil filter. That $10 filter cost the guy a few grand. And since it was not an approved dodge part, dodge did not cover the cost, it was all out of pocket for the guy.
I realize it could have been something in the filter prior to installing it, but I will take my dealer oil filters for my cars.

lifeisdeath · Apr 29, 2003

k&n airfilter? yes

k&n oilfilter? no.

cali · Apr 29, 2003

lifeisdeath said:
k&n oilfilter? no.

Why not?

Mike B. · Apr 29, 2003

If you want to use the Mobil-1 filter it's M1-209.

thispainisours · Apr 29, 2003

i've read that the k+n oil filters are one of the better ones along with the mobile one..
fram= bad !!

Stealth · Apr 29, 2003

I guess K&N's are so bad, thats why drag racers use them :roll:

Billy · Apr 29, 2003

Stealth said:
I guess K&N's are so bad, thats why drag racers use them :roll:

No comment on the quality of one filter over the other, but comparing an engine that is going to be stripped down, if not rebuilt after every track outing to a daily driver is a bit of a stretch.

I mean, rally teams don't use anything other then some grease to seal some parts of the engine when they are built, would I do it on my car? Hell no.

lifeisdeath · Apr 29, 2003

"I guess K&N's are so bad, thats why drag racers use them "

because a few drag racers use them make them the best in the world? did you ever hear of sponsors?

"ill pay you to use my product and put a sticker on your car."

there have been many tests, and the k&n oil filter is NOT good. the airfilter, however, is good.

http://people.msoe.edu/~yoderw/oilfilterstudy/oilfilterstudy.html#mobil1

http://www.parthe.net/_oilchangeguys/00000010.htm

have to find the link with the k&n info

srt4evah · Apr 29, 2003

So what should filter I get? Mopar, Mobil1, Champion? I'm confused now, and I need something this week.

lifeisdeath · Apr 30, 2003

i would go with mobil 1 or mopar.

bubba · Apr 30, 2003

after cutting numerous filters apart the dealer is the best I have seen. Wix is also good. I have not tried the mobil filter so I can't comment on those. But, as stated earlier, STAY AWAY FROM FRAM!! :splat: they are the worst you can get. the double gaurd isn't as bad as the regular fram, but it is still much worse than the wix.

Good to know almost everyone else hates K&N oil filters.
I am not bashing their air filters, I had one on my SVT Focus, so please no flaming at Jason. :?

edited: I too would go with mopar or mobil.

daytonagts · Apr 30, 2003

I think right now the mopar filters are a champion. If this helps... :roll:

SilverBullet · Apr 30, 2003

lifeisdeath said:
"I guess K&N's are so bad, thats why drag racers use them "

because a few drag racers use them make them the best in the world? did you ever hear of sponsors?

"ill pay you to use my product and put a sticker on your car."

there have been many tests, and the k&n oil filter is NOT good. the airfilter, however, is good.

http://people.msoe.edu/~yoderw/oilfilterstudy/oilfilterstudy.html#mobil1

http://www.parthe.net/_oilchangeguys/00000010.htm

have to find the link with the k&n info

But...but...but...but...I have the hp-2009. :?

srt4evah · Apr 30, 2003

I want your avatar... ALL YOUR AVATAR ARE BELONG TO [email protected]!1

Well, I'm gonna try the Mobil 1 filter, grab it from Kragen today.

SilverBullet · Apr 30, 2003

srt4evah said:
I want your avatar... ALL YOUR AVATAR ARE BELONG TO [email protected]!1

Well, I'm gonna try the Mobil 1 filter, grab it from Kragen today.

Muuwwwwaaahahahahaha! :twisted:

BTW, where can I get the Mobil-1 filter around my area (Maryland). Anyone?

bubba · May 1, 2003

ok silver. your sig says ask about your avatar... I am askin.

That is all.

srt4evah · May 1, 2003

I went with the Mopar filter, $6.60 at the dealer.

Stealth Spec · May 2, 2003

Nissan OEM filters are the best for our cars, so maybe mopar is the best for yours? haha. But i've heard good things about the mobil 1 though. So i'd say Mopar or Mobil 1. (it seems you guys like the mopar, it should be good)

hemidakota · May 2, 2003

bubba said:
I don't know how the quality on all K&N oil filters are, but I will never buy one for a diesel dodge pickup. I know a diesel mechanic who works for Cummins and they got a ram with less than 10,000 miles in with a dead engine. The cause was one of the piston oil squirters got plugged with a piece of something that got past the K&N oil filter. That $10 filter cost the guy a few grand. And since it was not an approved dodge part, dodge did not cover the cost, it was all out of pocket for the guy.
I realize it could have been something in the filter prior to installing it, but I will take my dealer oil filters for my cars.

Hmm..unlikely.

I been using the filters for drag cars, street performance cars/trucks, and now the SRT-4.

Have you ever cut one open? Try it and then the Mopar Champion, then Mobile 1, and the some cheaper ones and then compare my friend.

Who ever you told you this is full of it.

The research has been done some years ago by an univeristy student and three top filters beside Frantz (toilet paper version), is Mobile 1, K&N, and Champion.

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