I'd avoid that place if I were you:rofl:Exhaust Depot said:with e85, you have worst fuel econo than using gas on a flex fuel vehicle. So less mpg but im sure they sell the stuff for over $2 a gallon right? Im still waiting for $165 for super back in 2002 or so.
That's why biomass using celulosic byproducts are going to kick ass in the future. Corn husks, all the waste matter that gets tossed anyway. Mr. Fusion is only a step away!BLKDOUTSRT4 said:that is why ethanol is not a good fuel alternative......i mean in the end how much corn can we grow....i heard that all the agave fields in mexico are gettin plowed under to grow corn for more ethanol...they said it will cause a tequila shortage lol ...
:crying: tequila shortage FTL!!!BLKDOUTSRT4 said:that is why ethanol is not a good fuel alternative......i mean in the end how much corn can we grow....i heard that all the agave fields in mexico are gettin plowed under to grow corn for more ethanol...they said it will cause a tequila shortage lol ...
electrolysis is done with electricity ...so technically advancements in nuclear power plants would provide electricity to harvest the hydrogenSRTCommemorative142 said:there are two other problems with hydrogen
1) storage capacity, which is being worked on (10,000 psi tanks)
2) Obtaining hydrogen. Yes, it's in water, but it takes a lot of energy to release from the oxygen bond (electrolysis) and this energy would likely come from coal fired power plants. So you are doing nothing more than changing the source of the pollutant. So yes you are reducing tailpipe emissions (remember air is 70% nitrogen, so there's potential of NOx) is it really cleaner than burning the dinosaurs in our cars??
I've also read about getting it from propane or other gases, but again similar problems.
Correct. Gas mileage will suffer since ethanol contains 34% less energy per gallon compared to gasoline; it has a lower BTU rating compared to gasoline. Ethanol also has a stoich of 9:1 compared to gasolines' 14.7:1, and is more suitable in a higher compression engine.[email protected] said:E85 can be very corrosive to the components in your fuel system. So typically your vehicle needs to be able to handle it, or you need to convert many of the orings, connectors, etc in your fuel system over to stuff that can resist the corrosiveness of the blend.
That is one issue,
the next issue with E85 comes from the tuning. The mixture of E85 has a much different stoichiometric point than the regular 14.7:1 AFR that you are used to with the standard gasoline. This fact results in a few things. First off, IIRC the stoichiometric point for E85 is around 10:1 AFR. So you will need very very large injectors since you will need to supply A LOT of fuel under WOT. I believe one of the AMS Evos that they converted to E85 was running like 1000cc injectors just to make in the 400-450whp range safely (again this is just off the top of my head). The next issue is your wideband meter you are using to tune, the wideband displays the AFR ratio based on a measured lambda given a specific scale based on regular gasoline. When you convert to E85 you will need a way to change this scale so that your AFR gauge is reading correctly. And of course most of all, you will need some way to tune your PCM based on all of the changes (i.e. the new stoich point, new O2 sensor parameters, new injectors, and new WOT parameters)... so typically this is done with an EMS, maybe highly configurable stock PCM, converter electronics, etc.
With all that said if you were to convert over to E85 successfully the typical octane rating of E85 is around 100-105, so it would be much like running unleaded race gas 24/7