Second Chance was one of the few that was able to get a 3 mount set for his SRT cause he placed his order a few weeks back. Anyhow my friend Taka and i will be wrenching away in a few and i will have Second Chance take some shots while we do this. He got the Firm mounts in black and i'll update this thread when we are complete. I'll give a first impression but will like the owner to do the evaluation. Thanks and L8r..Drizzie we needs ya!
Deyeme Racing Motor mounts: Install (UPDATED!!!)
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ok the pictures will follow but to install the passenger side mounts, which BTW are very simple you must do the following:
-Raise car with a floor jack on each side and place a jack stand ON each frame rail itself.
-The car should now have its front end off the ground and you may proceed to remove the passenger side wheel.
-After you have done this then you need a 10mm to remove 2 bolts that hold the fender liner to the frame rail.
-They are tucked away so shine some light up in there and you'll see them.
-Once those two are out then you have two plastic clips that hold it to the bracket that holds the windshield washer reservoir to remove.
-One last 10mm bolt on the front end will set the splash guard free.
-Now you'll have full view and access to the lower mount and with a deep socket 18mm remove the center screw to the mount end closest to the front of the car.
-With a deep socket 15mm (if im not mistaken) remove the screw that holds the mount onto the frame.
-Remove the lower mount and proceed backward to the previous steps for reassembling the lower portion of the vehicle.
-After you bring the car off the jack stands and jack you may now proceed to the easiest mount the top mount.
-The install on this mount is sooo simple that it needs no instructing but that of making sure you use the correct tools. Reason being that the center screw that connects mount to the motor is not easily accessed due to AC lines.
Tranny mount (if ordered as 3 mount set) oh the joys.....
Well i was forwarned about this task and wish this upon no one to have to do this...even if its for free like me:
-Start (assuming the car is already on jackstands) by removing the driver's side wheel for access to mount ceneterbolt access point and later for other purposes.
-If you look in the fenderwell there is a access point to the tranny mount centerbolt, pop the cap off carefully with a flathead
-Remove the Airbox, battery and battery tray
-use a jack (with a small piece of plywood on it), place under tranny and jack tranny up a bit.
-The bracket that holds the battery tray is your friend but will quickly become your bitch.
-See the tranny mount has 3 bolts that hold it to the tranny which are all almost impossible to reach from the top and dont mention the bottom. Well 2 arent and the 3rd is. Then you have the centerbolt
-you may now with an 18mm deep socket reach into access point and unscrew the centerbolt to the tranny mount. Loosen it but dont pull it out
-Now the bracket (holds the battery tray), what we did was we unbolted the 3 easily accessible bolts to the bracket and then there is this very pesky plastic clip holding up some wiring that you'll need to pull out from the inside of the frame rail to free the bracket.
- You can either remove or lift the braket up so that when you have removed the 3 mounting bolts all you have to do is pull the centerbolt.
-remove 3 mounting bolts and centerbolt
-Once that is complete you can lower the tranny slowly (I MEAN SLOWLY!) to the point that you can reach all three mounting bolts on the tranny that hold the mount to the tranny.
-At the same point you can remove the last bolt (its buried on the bottom of the bracket inside the frame rail) dont forget to look under the fusebox there is a nut that holds the bracket there too.
- Remove tranny mount and replace
-It is a whole lot easier to mount all the screws to the bracket back on first then place the tranny mount so that when the bracket is set the mount can move and be positioned.
- place the 3 bolts that hold mount to tranny in place and tighten
- This is the trickiest part, with the jack you must now raise and with the naked eye line up the centerbolt hole
-once it is lined up proceed to insert the centerbolt and tighten.
- You are almost done now you just need to put both wheels back on (if you havent already put one back on).
- Place airbox, battery tray and battery back in their respective places.
- make sure that all connections and fitting are correctly fastened
- make sure you leave no tools on the car
- make sure you jack the car up, remove the jack stands and lower it.
-Done , the tranny mount is the most time comsuming so i suggest you start there.
Any questions?
-Raise car with a floor jack on each side and place a jack stand ON each frame rail itself.
-The car should now have its front end off the ground and you may proceed to remove the passenger side wheel.
-After you have done this then you need a 10mm to remove 2 bolts that hold the fender liner to the frame rail.
-They are tucked away so shine some light up in there and you'll see them.
-Once those two are out then you have two plastic clips that hold it to the bracket that holds the windshield washer reservoir to remove.
-One last 10mm bolt on the front end will set the splash guard free.
-Now you'll have full view and access to the lower mount and with a deep socket 18mm remove the center screw to the mount end closest to the front of the car.
-With a deep socket 15mm (if im not mistaken) remove the screw that holds the mount onto the frame.
-Remove the lower mount and proceed backward to the previous steps for reassembling the lower portion of the vehicle.
-After you bring the car off the jack stands and jack you may now proceed to the easiest mount the top mount.
-The install on this mount is sooo simple that it needs no instructing but that of making sure you use the correct tools. Reason being that the center screw that connects mount to the motor is not easily accessed due to AC lines.
Tranny mount (if ordered as 3 mount set) oh the joys.....
Well i was forwarned about this task and wish this upon no one to have to do this...even if its for free like me:
-Start (assuming the car is already on jackstands) by removing the driver's side wheel for access to mount ceneterbolt access point and later for other purposes.
-If you look in the fenderwell there is a access point to the tranny mount centerbolt, pop the cap off carefully with a flathead
-Remove the Airbox, battery and battery tray
-use a jack (with a small piece of plywood on it), place under tranny and jack tranny up a bit.
-The bracket that holds the battery tray is your friend but will quickly become your bitch.
-See the tranny mount has 3 bolts that hold it to the tranny which are all almost impossible to reach from the top and dont mention the bottom. Well 2 arent and the 3rd is. Then you have the centerbolt
-you may now with an 18mm deep socket reach into access point and unscrew the centerbolt to the tranny mount. Loosen it but dont pull it out
-Now the bracket (holds the battery tray), what we did was we unbolted the 3 easily accessible bolts to the bracket and then there is this very pesky plastic clip holding up some wiring that you'll need to pull out from the inside of the frame rail to free the bracket.
- You can either remove or lift the braket up so that when you have removed the 3 mounting bolts all you have to do is pull the centerbolt.
-remove 3 mounting bolts and centerbolt
-Once that is complete you can lower the tranny slowly (I MEAN SLOWLY!) to the point that you can reach all three mounting bolts on the tranny that hold the mount to the tranny.
-At the same point you can remove the last bolt (its buried on the bottom of the bracket inside the frame rail) dont forget to look under the fusebox there is a nut that holds the bracket there too.
- Remove tranny mount and replace
-It is a whole lot easier to mount all the screws to the bracket back on first then place the tranny mount so that when the bracket is set the mount can move and be positioned.
- place the 3 bolts that hold mount to tranny in place and tighten
- This is the trickiest part, with the jack you must now raise and with the naked eye line up the centerbolt hole
-once it is lined up proceed to insert the centerbolt and tighten.
- You are almost done now you just need to put both wheels back on (if you havent already put one back on).
- Place airbox, battery tray and battery back in their respective places.
- make sure that all connections and fitting are correctly fastened
- make sure you leave no tools on the car
- make sure you jack the car up, remove the jack stands and lower it.
-Done , the tranny mount is the most time comsuming so i suggest you start there.
Any questions?
We started around 12.30-12.45am and were not done until 5am. It was 3 of us but my and i were very very cautious since after all we were doing a favor and most importantly it wasnt our car. I will say the the Firm mounts Rock!...i mean they are stiff as hell. The difference is immediately noticeable as soon as you turn the car on. No more missed shifts, no more wheels hop (its just traction or wheel spin due to weight transfer) and the car will feel waaay more responsive. I'll have Second Chance give you his take as soon as he wakes up :lol: All in all it was frustrating (tranny mount took us the majority of the time!) but fun
acr2nv, thanks for the detailed post. I'm sure it will help a lot of people.
I haven't got a tranny mount yet, but when I took a look at it to get the part number for Travis, I removed the centerbolt before lowering the tranny. Your instructions say to loosen the bolt but don't remove it, lower the tranny, and then remove it. I don't understand how you can lower the tranny if the bolt is still in place? Maybe I'm missing something.
Wait, I think I understand. You removed the black bracket that covers the mount. I didn't do that. Didn't seem necessary, but maybe I'm wrong. I'll be trying this again soon, so I'll take another look at it.
Anyway, thanks again for the info.
I haven't got a tranny mount yet, but when I took a look at it to get the part number for Travis, I removed the centerbolt before lowering the tranny. Your instructions say to loosen the bolt but don't remove it, lower the tranny, and then remove it. I don't understand how you can lower the tranny if the bolt is still in place? Maybe I'm missing something.
Wait, I think I understand. You removed the black bracket that covers the mount. I didn't do that. Didn't seem necessary, but maybe I'm wrong. I'll be trying this again soon, so I'll take another look at it.
Anyway, thanks again for the info.
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just wonderin since you have all the mods that i've ordered :roll: installed
have you ran a qm yet ?? how jah do .. and is it the cat on or racing pipe dp system??
just wonderin since you have all the mods that i've ordered :roll: installed
have you ran a qm yet ?? how jah do .. and is it the cat on or racing pipe dp system??
drolander it was late/early for me but i went throught the steps right except i edited myself and put the lines in the wrong places...but i put them in order. We couldnt get the tranny mount out without taking the bracket out so we had to. It was vry painless for the two other mounts but the tranny mount pissed all of us off...me more than them cause no matter how easily i tried to remove it it wouldnt come out. I may have done it the hard way but it was like a 10 minute ordeal to put it all back together. Second Chance is probably hybernating...he dropped me off at 6-630am and he lives 45min-1hr away from me. He treated me to breakfast and we called it even, so i hope that once he wakes up he'll find this thread.
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Well it was a long night and i still havn't made up my mind if i like them or hate them. Bonus i can keep it in first gear up till 6k without car shaking like a car on crack. so it'll help in 1/4 mile but going from a stand still it feels like i'm gonna stale the car kinda shakes from 1k-2k. It'll take some time to get used to it.
I'll post again later when i get a final verdict on how i like it or hate it maybe i'll wait till I goto the track see what i run and how it goes.
I'll post again later when i get a final verdict on how i like it or hate it maybe i'll wait till I goto the track see what i run and how it goes.
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looked in the M/M and it talked about lining the mounts up. There was a procedure for doing this.
? I don't have any stall problems, and I don't have any shaking. I'm not sure what you mean. The only drawbacks I've noticed are some additional (little) vibration and noise. I can live with that.
To be fair, I haven't replaced the tranny mount yet. I was going to do that tonight.
To be fair, I haven't replaced the tranny mount yet. I was going to do that tonight.
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ill send u some copies with the parts
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Firm, got 2 black and one purple :?: But all firm.
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I'm gonna try and e-bay my originals or maybe if travis wants to buy them he can cut out the stock stuff and use them since he needs more mounts.
Purple means horsepower! My whole Neon ('96 ACR) is purple, and the car kicks ass!
Dan is right, it's just different batches. Everyone in the 1st ten of the group buy should have their mounts today or Monday- I'm eager to see more reviews, and esp. race results!!!
Dan is right, it's just different batches. Everyone in the 1st ten of the group buy should have their mounts today or Monday- I'm eager to see more reviews, and esp. race results!!!
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Yea color doesn't matter, just thought it was weird that i got 2 different colors but you can only see one so its all good. As for race results we shale see soon :twisted: I like that i can use first gear till red line without all the bad wheel hop like before. so it should help alot.
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