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  • Is there a risk of water getting up there (assuming no big puddles)?
  • Am I missing a splash guard? Should I make one/get one?? Last-minute convert to short ram???
  • Am I over thinking this?

Recently installed the AGP CAI. Goes all the way in front of the wheel, and the filter sits about a foot or so off the ground. I normally don't drive my car when it rains/has rained, but I've got an autocross event today (my first) and there's a good chance of rain.

I'm a bit worried about damaging the car after spending the past year fixing shit and getting it running again. Saw this thread and left just as confused:

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This is a high risk situation if running of any surface that is not completely flat. Most surfaces that we drive on are not perfectly flat.
I know of a guy with same car and same filter location that accidentally touched a small puddle with the front tire and hydrolocked the engine. The pre-filter mentioned would not do much to prevent that problem.
 

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There really isn't that much of a bonus to locating the air filter down there. In fact, from a pure performance aspect, a CAI isn't really any better than the stock airbox. Yes, you can hear the turbo more clearly, yes, it looks cooler, that's about it. There are people who will argue that there's "very little chance" of hydrolocking the engine from the air filter in that location, I don't like the fact that there is ANY chance.
 

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There really isn't that much of a bonus to locating the air filter down there. In fact, from a pure performance aspect, a CAI isn't really any better than the stock airbox. Yes, you can hear the turbo more clearly, yes, it looks cooler, that's about it. There are people who will argue that there's "very little chance" of hydrolocking the engine from the air filter in that location, I don't like the fact that there is ANY chance.
I've seen some testing that shows that you need to fully submerge the filter in order to start pulling water. Not sure on the validity. However, the AGP CAI is sectional. You can convert back and forth between a ram air and a cai (at least on mine I can).
 

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Anecdotal shit here.

I have a K&N Typhoon that goes down into the fender as well, and I live in Vancouver where it rains like Seattle all fuckin year. I've never had an issue and i've gone through some big ass puddles and hydroplaned so much when I first got my srt4 and it still had the original KDW's on it. Having said that, hydrolocking is still in the back of my mind and I try to avoid shit if I can.....I do have the hydrophobic sock that goes over the filter too
 

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I’ve got the AEM cai and it places it in the same spot. It is low but I keep it in mind to try and not drive if it’s really going to rain, but my car isn’t a dd. I too have wondered about this though.
 

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I know of a guy with same car and same filter location that accidentally touched a small puddle with the front tire and hydrolocked the engine.
... In fact, from a pure performance aspect, a CAI isn't really any better than the stock airbox. ... I don't like the fact that there is ANY chance.
Thanks for the feedback. This all started when my stock intake was falling apart. I tried to find an OEM replacement but couldn't, and didn't feel like re-encountering the issue by purchasing a used one. Did some research on here and it seemed AGP was a good brand, but it looks like I missed a few threads about this specific CAI... gonna just keep it out of the rain for now I guess.

I've seen some testing that shows that you need to fully submerge the filter in order to start pulling water. Not sure on the validity. However, the AGP CAI is sectional. You can convert back and forth between a ram air and a cai (at least on mine I can).
That's good to know, but on mine the pipe going into the fender is the one with the MAP so I don't think I can convert to short ram... unless it can be used in place of the pipe coming from the turbo...
 

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That's good to know, but on mine the pipe going into the fender is the one with the MAP so I don't think I can convert to short ram... unless it can be used in place of the pipe coming from the turbo...
Pretty sure that's just a temp sensor. The MAP is located on the intake manifold. Though I wouldn't suggest just leaving it hanging, you shouldn't notice any difference if it was not in the air intake for a single rainy day. Mine is mounted in the fender and not in the intake.
 
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