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Old 09-21-2007, 10:50 PM   #1 (permalink)
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What is the life of a wideband O2 sensor? its used and when I go for a dyno w/wideband will that tell me how accurate? I have a stock fuel system(2004) and boosting 20spike to 14 hold. and my wideband just reads 10.0 but at idle it fluctuates from 14.4-15.3. I bought it used.
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at idle its right 14ish to 15ish iwas runnig s1on a 2005 at 20/16 and it was 11.8 at spike not on the life span
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reads about where it should be, but yeah if you go to a dyno and use their
O2 sniffer you will be able to compare how accurate your wideband is, and its nice to see your AFR printed put and per RPM so that you dont have to mash the gas on the road and try to watch your gauge...the life should also depend on what brand and model wideband also
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Quote: Originally Posted by catlin987987
What is the life of a wideband O2 sensor? its used and when I go for a dyno w/wideband will that tell me how accurate? I have a stock fuel system(2004) and boosting 20spike to 14 hold. and my wideband just reads 10.0 but at idle it fluctuates from 14.4-15.3. I bought it used.

if its at 10 during WOT then you need to cut some of the fuel. you're losing power running that rich...get a return line and a fpr. also at least a map clamp and you can boost more and tune your vehicle
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If you stay away from lead or additives then it should last a couple of years. I have the NGK and just got a new sensor and my original sensor has lasted for 12,000 miles. I just found a new sensor for $79 so I figured that it was worth replacing.
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What is the life of a wideband O2 sensor? its used and when I go for a dyno w/wideband will that tell me how accurate? I have a stock fuel system(2004) and boosting 20spike to 14 hold. and my wideband just reads 10.0 but at idle it fluctuates from 14.4-15.3. I bought it used.

if its at 10 during WOT then you need to cut some of the fuel. you're losing power running that rich...get a return line and a fpr. also at least a map clamp and you can boost more and tune your vehicle

but if it is off at wot and I cut it back to 11.5 it might be 12.5-13
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What is the life of a wideband O2 sensor? its used and when I go for a dyno w/wideband will that tell me how accurate? I have a stock fuel system(2004) and boosting 20spike to 14 hold. and my wideband just reads 10.0 but at idle it fluctuates from 14.4-15.3. I bought it used.

if its at 10 during WOT then you need to cut some of the fuel. you're losing power running that rich...get a return line and a fpr. also at least a map clamp and you can boost more and tune your vehicle

but if it is off at wot and I cut it back to 11.5 it might be 12.5-13

i think that its where it should be at WOT, it might not be exactly where, its hard to tell because every car is different but it seems close
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What is the life of a wideband O2 sensor? its used and when I go for a dyno w/wideband will that tell me how accurate? I have a stock fuel system(2004) and boosting 20spike to 14 hold. and my wideband just reads 10.0 but at idle it fluctuates from 14.4-15.3. I bought it used.

if its at 10 during WOT then you need to cut some of the fuel. you're losing power running that rich...get a return line and a fpr. also at least a map clamp and you can boost more and tune your vehicle

but if it is off at wot and I cut it back to 11.5 it might be 12.5-13

i have an aem wideband. i had some crazy shit happening with it a few weeks back where it seemed to be running crazy lean. the guage was melted and one of the wires running off the sensor were shorted giving an innaccurate reading. check your wires first
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It is common for the sensor to read .5 richer than the dyno's sniffer. If its off more than that it needs to be calibrated. This is just due to the sensors placement. I personally feel comfortable trusting my sensor rather than the dyno's. After all mine is closer to the action. They could have a short life span depending on the abuse you put it through, but I would try calibrating it before buying a new one. I just calibrated mine after like 5k miles, and it was almost 1 full point off.

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Mine is still damn close to stoich...14.7 after 1.5 yrs and 2 turbos. They all fluctuate a bit when cruising as said. My sensors can be bought for about $45 online. Innovative LC-1 integrated with ems. Can unplug and hit calibrate button if needed. I even mix race gas on every fill up. Couple gallons.

http://www.autopartswarehouse.com/pr...=oxygen_sensor

Link for cheap price on upper sensors. I bought the ones toward bottom of page. $22.99 a pc. Bought a couple spares to save shipping. Cheap insurance. Carry
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http://www.amazon.com/Bosch-17014-Ox.../dp/B000BZI4ZW

Link for LC-1 sensors.
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thats reading exactly like it should....you're just pegging the thing rich at WOT..doesnt read any richer than 10.0:1 i imagine..i know my LM-1 doesnt. Sensor is fine, you just need a tune.
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What should a typical reading be at WOT?
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if you're stock...10.0:1..these things run crazy pig rich. I've got mine dialed in at 11.5:1 at wot, thats about as far as i want to take it since i dont have the ability to read knock count and such yet.
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if you're stock...10.0:1..these things run crazy pig rich. I've got mine dialed in at 11.5:1 at wot, thats about as far as i want to take it since i dont have the ability to read knock count and such yet.

Doesn't your dtec read knock?
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Quote: Originally Posted by catlin987987
What is the life of a wideband O2 sensor? its used and when I go for a dyno w/wideband will that tell me how accurate? I have a stock fuel system(2004) and boosting 20spike to 14 hold. and my wideband just reads 10.0 but at idle it fluctuates from 14.4-15.3. I bought it used.

if you're not using race gas it should last you a long time. i just had to replace my wideband sensor after about three years and i run leaded gas quite a bit. if you're stickig wtih unleaded then it should last you a little longer.

Quote: Originally Posted by dj muze
if its at 10 during WOT then you need to cut some of the fuel. you're losing power running that rich...get a return line and a fpr. also at least a map clamp and you can boost more and tune your vehicle

he's running rich...so add more fuel with a return line. good idea. a basic fuel controller is a better option, and no one should ever run a map clamp, those things are just a waste of time.

Quote: Originally Posted by catlin987987
but if it is off at wot and I cut it back to 11.5 it might be 12.5-13

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i think that its where it should be at WOT, it might not be exactly where, its hard to tell because every car is different but it seems close

an a/f of 13 is good? i hope that you don't have your car tuned to that. 11.5-12 is a safe a/f for pump gas, you can bump that to 12.5, maybe a little higher, on race gas. if you're running a 13 a/f on pump say good bye to your rings.


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Mine is still damn close to stoich...14.7 after 1.5 yrs and 2 turbos. They all fluctuate a bit when cruising as said. My sensors can be bought for about $25 online. Innovative LC-1 integrated with ems. Can unplug and hit calibrate button if needed. I even mix race gas on every fill up. Couple gallons.

http://www.autopartswarehouse.com/pr...=oxygen_sensor

Link for cheap price on upper sensors. I bought the ones toward bottom of page. $22.99 a pc. Bought a couple spares to save shipping. Cheap insurance. Carry spares with me.

you do realize that the o2 sensors that are listed on that page are oem replacement units (ie narrowbands), not wideband sensors right? wideband sensors are significantly more expensive, the cheapest i have found them is about $60.
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