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Old 02-24-2007, 12:20 AM   #31 (permalink)
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so the SAFC Neo does not have a knock sensor? Cause I can't find any info indicating that it does. Does everyone have there RPM signal actually going to the map sensor instead of the TPS, I am still a little confused by this. I wired it up like that, but just did so becuse the how-to recommended it.

Knock sensor would be useless.... yes, i think almost everybody, including myself, has wired the gray TPS wire to the MAP to reference boost rather than throttle position.

and that is how it should be wired, on a turbo car it is more important to add/remove fuel based on boost b/c that is where the mass of the air comes from....
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alright, I fired it up this morning, and it nearly dies before it starts, once the idle settles it runs like a champ, but I tried it about 10 times, and each time it is a rough start, one time it didn't even start. I have a stage 0 PCM, my stage 1 will be here tuesday, I had to send it off to flight systems. I ofcourse have the CEL beause of the stage 0, but is that why it has a hard start?
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alright, I fired it up this morning, and it nearly dies before it starts, once the idle settles it runs like a champ, but I tried it about 10 times, and each time it is a rough start, one time it didn't even start. I have a stage 0 PCM, my stage 1 will be here tuesday, I had to send it off to flight systems. I ofcourse have the CEL beause of the stage 0, but is that why it has a hard start?

no, the stage should'nt cause the rough starts, (I don't believe, but im stg. 1). did you solder all your connections? b/c if you have a bad power/ground/map signal wire, it might cause the rough start. Did you do both the brown and black ground? and in seperate spots? are u using a tach driver its connections might be bad.
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"no, the stage should'nt cause the rough starts, (I don't believe, but im stg. 1). did you solder all your connections? b/c if you have a bad power/ground/map signal wire, it might cause the rough start. Did you do both the brown and black ground? and in seperate spots? are u using a tach driver its connections might be bad."

I actually do have the grounds on the same spot, all my connections are soldered including the tach driver, I will move one of the grounds and see if that makes a difference. Thanks for the help
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"no, the stage should'nt cause the rough starts, (I don't believe, but im stg. 1). did you solder all your connections? b/c if you have a bad power/ground/map signal wire, it might cause the rough start. Did you do both the brown and black ground? and in seperate spots? are u using a tach driver its connections might be bad."

I actually do have the grounds on the same spot, all my connections are soldered including the tach driver, I will move one of the grounds and see if that makes a difference. Thanks for the help

that could be it.
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"no, the stage should'nt cause the rough starts, (I don't believe, but im stg. 1). did you solder all your connections? b/c if you have a bad power/ground/map signal wire, it might cause the rough start. Did you do both the brown and black ground? and in seperate spots? are u using a tach driver its connections might be bad."

I actually do have the grounds on the same spot, all my connections are soldered including the tach driver, I will move one of the grounds and see if that makes a difference. Thanks for the help

that could be it.

Nope, and I also rewired the sensors. Still it wants to die, especially when in gear and I let off the gas. when it comes back to idle it wants to die. all connections are solid, anyone else have an issue like this. The AFC is giving me good readouts for the sensors.
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are you pulling any fuel yet? or is correction off? what are your hi/lo throttle pts set at? just quickies, lemme think a lil more for a solution.

EDIT: also, did you seperate the WHITE wire and GRAY wire when you wired into the MAP wire? you should have at least an inch between em.

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are you pulling any fuel yet? or is correction off? what are your hi/lo throttle pts set at? just quickies, lemme think a lil more for a solution.

EDIT: also, did you seperate the WHITE wire and GRAY wire when you wired into the MAP wire? you should have at least an inch between em.

No, I am not pulling fuel I am still at no correction. Lo is 10%, High is 40% the gray wire is about an inch from the white. I can move it down some more, have people had a problem from them being to close?
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are you pulling any fuel yet? or is correction off? what are your hi/lo throttle pts set at? just quickies, lemme think a lil more for a solution.

EDIT: also, did you seperate the WHITE wire and GRAY wire when you wired into the MAP wire? you should have at least an inch between em.

No, I am not pulling fuel I am still at no correction. Lo is 10%, High is 40% the gray wire is about an inch from the white. I can move it down some more, have people had a problem from them being to close?

ok, I moved it and it still has the same problem, I am getting worried now
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yes, i think almost everybody, including myself, has wired the gray TPS wire to the MAP to reference boost rather than throttle position.

and that is how it should be wired, on a turbo car it is more important to add/remove fuel based on boost b/c that is where the mass of the air comes from....

.... I dont think this is for me but its worth a shot before doing something wrong. i have the apexi neo for my 95 neon i turboed with a garret t3 and wired it up using a wire diag. from a dealership. but for this quote i found on the thread should i have the tps wrie wired to the map signal wire instead of the tps. should i have mine wired like that or does it make a difference because you guys are running srt-4's ???? i havent started mine up yet waiting for a cam gear so i have time to fix it help please thankyou
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Sorry if this is a noobish question but can the signal from the vtec wire be used to activate a device other then a vtec system ie: shiftlight or w/i system?
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I dont know if you can use that wire.... I guess it would be ok but my guess is it is the wire that gets the signal when vtec kicks in.... not the wire that causes it to kick in...
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hey guys i found this on 2gn and tought it might be important since allot of people are asking abouit it this is actually for the safc 2 but its the same for the afc-neo hope this helps if anyone has any questions let me know

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That wiring diagram uses the TPS as throttle as oppose to load, which goes off of MAP sensor for throttle percent.
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I have my Neo on the shelf and can't wait to install it.

Unfortunatelly I broke my left ankle last week so it'll only be done in 4 to 5 weeks !
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