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Old 10-02-2006, 03:11 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Apex~i SAFC NEO menu help... Picture Intensive

Ok, so I noticed a lot of people were having trouble with these things, so here is some help....

1.The wiring is exactly the same as the SAFC II
2. You will have lots of extra wires left over, its for vtec control, you do not need them so tie them off
3. Follow the pictures below to help setup the workings of the unit
4. If you are S0, most throw a P1187 CEL I am still searching for a fix....
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Ok first things first.... this should be self explanitory.... VTEC should stay where it belongs.... on Hondas, so this setting is supposed to be OFF


This is Easy/Pro mode choice.... Pro mode gives your more points to map your A/F, so go with that.... unless you like having the fewer points



Cylinders = 4 and Throttle setting pointing Northeast



Sensor select should be on Pressure



Your analog readings max... you can choose the numbers, this works best for me RPM at 8000 because the next lowest is at 6000.... Correction at +/- 15% and pressure at 200



This is where you can customize the colors, brightness, angle, and if you want a screen saver or not....



my buttons are on the left so my screen is set for left... if your buttons are on the right, it should be set to right



Here is where you choose your throttle Volts.... car must be running to set this.... first you would let the car idle and hit ok where this screen is.... when it says throttle full OPEN you rev the car to full throttle (probably best on a dyno, sitting in your driveway is going to scare your neighbors) you dont have to do this for the car to run fine.... but if you do, it will let you set a throttle warning... and maybe other stuff (I am too scared to do it in my driveway)



Here is where you change your A/F map... hit the ok button to go between the RPM, High, and Low settings.... you have to be sitting on at least the first Ne point to switch between the three... hit the up or down button to change the numbers



Here is when you press the down button before being on the first Ne point, you can turn correction off, in case you dont have it tuned yet, or if the weather changes dramatically and you want to drive it home without it pulling fuel



This is an example of a fuel map graph... it shows how your fuel is set to be pulled on the car



Here is where you set the % throttle for the settings to kick in... anything between high and low will be rounded out between the two maps



Here is where you can check to make sure its hooked up right, if all the sensors are reading, its ok



This is the version number and stuff



This screen is bad, don't initialize unless you screwed up and need to reset the AFC Neo....

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Old 10-02-2006, 04:49 PM   #2 (permalink)
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If this is helpful make it a sticky or something that way it stays up top...
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Old 10-04-2006, 09:16 AM   #3 (permalink)
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is the installation (wiring) the same as safc II?
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Old 10-04-2006, 10:38 AM   #4 (permalink)
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yes, 100% the same.... the only difference is, you have to tie off alot of wiring used for Vtec control.... and NO you cannot use Vtec on our cars
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Is wireing so exactly the same that could you just cut the wires off near the back of the safc2 and just sauder them right onto the neo?? you know so you dont have to go through the trouble of running all those wires though the firewall and then cutting into the PCM and everything, cuz if the wires are all run the same from before then why run exactly the same new ones?? cuz the neo does look pretty sweet, i want

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yes you should be able to do that, you will still have wires left over on the NEO but you just tie them off and tape em.... or you can possibly unplug the AFC II from the wiring extension if you got one, and plug the NEO in there too .....
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i heard rumor that you dont need a tach adapter with this one....is it true???
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Quote: Originally Posted by Azzkikr764
i heard rumor that you dont need a tach adapter with this one....is it true???



I' pretty sure you do.
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Old 10-23-2006, 09:16 AM   #9 (permalink)
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yes you need a tach adapter... cannot be done without it to my knowledge because its made for cars running 0-5V and we have 3-7V cars
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Quote: Originally Posted by Blewbyu
yes you need a tach adapter... cannot be done without it to my knowledge because its made for cars running 0-5V and we have 3-7V cars

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what's the color change on the wiring from the neo to the safc 2.
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there is no color change... its all the same!
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Default afc2 vs neo!!!

well the wiring on the Neo is the same as the afc2 because its just inc with the v tech controller right??? well im handicapped because the neo I just bought is my first and ive not wired an afc2 ive noticed the neo has 2 green wires, light and dark, wich one do i use and can i run this w/out a tach adapter until i get one? ive got the instructions for the afc2 but i just need a little more guidance
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I am not sure about that, I just followed the install directions on here and it worked great...
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Im thinking of using this computer for my build up im building a 95 neon with a 2.0l block SOHC with .020" bore running 8.8:1 compression i was wondering if this is a good computer to use for this build up with around 20psi of boost from a Garrett T3 turbo my buddy has a 02 neon with stage 2 hahns and he has a zeitronix computer what one is better? and what is a tach adpater and where do i get it thanks.
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