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Old 07-24-2004, 11:52 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Is anybody using this OBD2 diagnostic? Can we?

I saw this product at http://www.obddiagnostics.com/ and wondered whether it was applicable to the SRT-4. Any ideas? Some screen shots of the program on a PC

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I don't know first-hand with this company's system, but I have Nology's OBDII PDA Dyno and it works with our car's. And it reads the same info showed on those screen shots, so I'm pretty sure it would work.
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that is pimp a licious....how much for one of those diagnostics tools....i would love to have one instead of going to the dyno to tune my stuff......
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Roundeye, are your Stage1 or 2? If so, You will be a first... I have come to the conclusion that Stage 1 and 2 is a modified OBDI.. It all makes sense too. OBDII dataloggers do not work on them. You don't need to use the second O2 sensor, plus many others. If you plan on going S1 or S2 route, don't waste your money.
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Kid, I think you are wrong. It makes much more sense to disable the usage of a few sensors than revert back to an engine management scheme that has been out of use since 1996.

Not to mention that OBDII codes are in categories, like P = powertrain , which OBD1 is not.


Roundeye, can you see ALL the data shown? Including intake temp? And timing? Last I heard, the Nology had some issues with some items.
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The website says "The interface supports OBDII protocols commonly used in US vehicles: VPW (General Motors), PWM (Ford), and ISO9141 (Chrysler, Asian, and European), and ISO 14230 protocol (also called Keyword 2000). "

Does the SRT use the ISO9141 indicated above? And will it not work with stage 1 or 2 because they are really only OBD1 compliant (and this diagnotic will NOT work with OBD1, according to the manufacturer), as KidFury suggests?

Seems like a good deal for $88 + a cheap laptop, but only if it works on the SRT-4.
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Yeah, I have Stage 1. And it does read as OB1 though. But it still works, and so does the dyno tool. And all the other cool stuf it's designed to do
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It does everything on that screen, but I don't know anything about the protocol stuff.
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Maybe I will give it a shot. Hell, I could always use it on my wife's PT Cruiser and for $88 SHIPPED, not too much of a risk. Again, from the website:
"The following is a list of data that you can monitor with this interface. Note that a given vehicle may not support some of the data items.



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MODE 1: Status of onboard tests , Fuel system status, Engine load, Coolant temperature, Fuel Trim (Long and short term), Manifold Pressure, Engine Rpm, Vehicle speed, Ignition timing advance, Intake air temperature, Intake air flow rate, Throttle position, Secondary air status, Oxygen sensor locations, Oxygen sensor voltages, and there are also a few others. Some data items may not be supported by a given vehicle.
MODE 2: This mode retrieves data that is similar to mode 1 above, but it was stored as a "Freeze frame" at the instant that the vehicle discovered a problem and set a diagnostic trouble code (DTC). Not all of the mode 1 variables are included in mode 2.
MODE 3: Reports Powertrain diagnostic trouble codes ("P" codes), including manufacturer specific codes which are reported under this mode.
MODE 4: Clears diagnostic trouble codes. It also clears the result of continuously and non-continuously monitored on board test results (modes 5 and 6), as well as freeze frame data.
MODE 5: Reports On board Oxygen sensor test results.
Some vehicles perform background diagnostics on the various oxygen sensors and this mode reports the results. Some of them are generic, but SAE also included provisions for manufacturer specific tests. Some vehicles use mode 6 to report these results.
MODE 6: Reports On board (non-continuously monitored) test results. This mode reports the results of various tests that the vehicle has performed. The interface will report any available data and format it in the SAE defined method, but many of these tests are manufacturer specific, so our PC software cannot interpret them for a specific vehicle. It will display the test value, and the upper and/or lower limit that the vehicle reports.
MODE 7: Reports On board monitoring results for continuously monitored systems. These are basically similar to mode 3 trouble codes, but they are set after a single driving cycle. They are useful to see if the vehicle has detected any problems after repairs have been made.
MODE 9: Mode 9 reports various data such as the vehicle's VIN number and calibration data. The current software attempts to retrieve the VIN number, but other functions appear to be manufacturer specific and are not querried."
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how much for one of these diagnostics tools??? I need me one of these.....
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Starkie,
This product just uses a serial cable and plugs into the port under the dash. Just wondering, is your scanner SUPPOSED to work w/OBD1? This one is NOT, but maybe it would work anyway?? Hmmm... Only the Shadow knows.
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I think because the stage 1 reads as OBD1, it doesn't read both O2 sensors.
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here are some economical scanners.... http://www.autoxray.com/products.aspx?sub=scanners
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Quote:
Is anybody using this OBD2 diagnostic? Can we?

I'm not using that particular tool, but i do have one of these in my car:

http://www.scanguage.com/

It goes for around 100 bucks and does just about everything other Diagnostic tools do, but without the need for a computer or laptop.

Heres a pic of what it looks like installed in my car...

Tono....
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Quote: Originally Posted by glhs837
Kid, I think you are wrong. It makes much more sense to disable the usage of a few sensors than revert back to an engine management scheme that has been out of use since 1996.

Not to mention that OBDII codes are in categories, like P = powertrain , which OBD1 is not.


Roundeye, can you see ALL the data shown? Including intake temp? And timing? Last I heard, the Nology had some issues with some items.


Sorry, I don't think I'm wrong on this one and there are a few other members that will agree with me. If you have stage 1 or 2 dataloggers read it as OBDI. I'm not saying that they are using an OBDI platform but a hybrid. Yes, the sensors still work but they are not needed.
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