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Old 09-07-2005, 08:50 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default How-To: Factory Cruise Control Install

Hello All-
I have an '04 SRT-4 with a S1 PCM. I ordered Mopar's Cruise Control Kit (Part #82208100AB) off of eBay (from eBay seller mopar4less ) for a grand total of $184, shipped. The kit is not intended for the SRT-4, but it is for 03-05 Neons. I thought it would be fairly easy to adapt to the SRT-4, but the real question was, will the PCM control it? General knowledge here says that it won't, but it does. Read on.

The kit is complete with the servo, cable, mounts, vacuum canister, cruise switch, clockspring, and even a wiring harness overlay. The wiring is very straightforward. The instructions tell you to drill out the holes in the white PCM (C3) connector, but I found that all four holes were capped off with removeable plugs, so that was real easy. There is wiring that runs above the turbocharger, so use some sort of heat reflecting/insulating material (I had some left over from a PT Cruiser wiring harness). Getting the wiring through the firewall was a bit of a trick. I simply taped (tightly) the wiring to a long screwdriver, and poked the whole mess through the hood release cable grommet from the engine compartment side. The interior stuff was very straightforward. All of the mountings for the switch are already in the steering wheel. Do just as the instructions say.

Under the hood, mount the servo, as per the instructions. This is where the instructions are no longer helpful. First, vacuum lines. The vacuum canister will not fit where the instructions want you to put it. I used a different canister, and mounted it in the front of the car. Tonight, I will look at putting the one that came with the kit under the cowl. I think it will fit there. Then it is just a matter of hooking up the vacuum lines. The kit comes with it's own vacuum harness, but it's for Neon, not SRT-4, so only pieces of it will help you. You just need to be creative here.

The big problem is the throttle body. The throttle body is not set up for two cables (one accelerator, one cruise). The 'cam' where the cable rides needs to be removed. Drill out the rivet that holds it on (be very careful, and VERY patient). I then took a PT Cruiser throttle body (although I think a TB from an 88 up 2.2/2.5L turbo car, or 87-95 3.0/3.3 V6 will work fine) and drilled the cam off of it. I used two nuts and bolts to fasten it in the original mounting holes on the SRT-4 throttle body. I plan to locate proper rivets, and secure this better. Use Loctite if you use bolts. The idea is that these never come loose. Next, you will notice a slot where the throttle cable sits in the bracket. Using a hacksaw, cutoff tool, Dremel, whatever, extend this slot all the way down to the edge of the bracket (right up to where it bends). This will give just enough room for both cables to ride in the bracket, and still have the throttle cable lock into place. I then slightly bent that whole bracket out, away from the throttle body, to make the cables line up a bit more straight on the cam. Once this process (the most time consuming part) is done, reinstall the throttle body. I ran the cruise cable down behind the intake, along the throttle cable. I tweaked the servo mount a bit, and nothing rubs on the engine or body.

The result? A completely factory looking installation! The cruise switch does take getting used to. It turns with the steering wheel, which is not a big deal, but I am used to the more stationary controls of earlier cars. When you press the ON/OFF switch, the word CRUISE appears in the odometer display. The controls all work fine, except for COAST/Tap Down. You can set, you can Resume, you can Cancel, you can Accel. You can't decel or Coast. I guess that programming is not there. The brake switch works fine, and the clutch 'soft' switch works great. When you press the clutch with the cruise engaged, the PCM senses the up-surge in engine RPM, and kills the cruise immediately. This also works if you accidentally push the shifter out of gear. You also do not have to install any special clutches switches.

I plan to take some detailed pictures, and eventually there will be a writeup on my website. I just got this going last night, and wanted to share with everyone. I have nothing against the aftermarket systems, and quite frankly, they are probably easier to install. I like an OEM look, so I took the $184 chance that this would work. Recently, I have verified that cruise will work on a S2 or S3 TOYS PCM, if I tune it with the SCT programming package. If you have Toys, and want Cruise, PM me about having your car tuned. Add any comments or questions here, or PM me. Hope this helps!







See the whole thing on the How To page on my site, ND Performance
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wow dude kick ass......I might have to look into this
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Awesome write up!! I am going back to work to check my employee cost on that kit......maybe Ill see if I can get a few of them!!

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great post! Please post pics if you can... Or write-up a how-to...

I might like to do this.

Cruise would work great on this car. What is the minimum speed at which you can engage it?

I find that 5th gear and boost can climb almost any hill, so theres no reason to shift while in cruise...
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is that how it looks?
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Yes, that's pretty close to what it looks like. I'll post up some pics in the next couple of days. I don't know what the minimum speed is, but I'm going to guess it will be 35MPH, much like any other cruise setup. I haven't found max, but hopefully it will be better than the 85mph than other Chrysler products have.
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Congratulations! You have just solved the eternal question of "factory cruise control" that every other n00b posts about.
Now we have TWO solutions: aftermarket cruise control or FACTORY.
Edit the first post with pics and a good "how-to" and have a Moderator move this into the How-To section and STICKY the sucker.
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Quote: Originally Posted by nemiro
Yes, that's pretty close to what it looks like. I'll post up some pics in the next couple of days. I don't know what the minimum speed is, but I'm going to guess it will be 35MPH, much like any other cruise setup. I haven't found max, but hopefully it will be better than the 85mph than other Chrysler products have.

Yes, us overseas people on autobahns HATE the 85mph limiter. 100mph would be safer over here. Otherwise you can get rear-ended like a mo-fo.
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interesting. I thought it would look more like some of the older neon cruise controls that were just buttons on the sides of the steering wheel...
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I'll try to test the 85mph limit on my way home tonight
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Awesome work Neil! I was very much waiting for this very news. Glad to see you have an SRT-4 now. I remember all the great things you did for the Turbo Dodge community. So when can we expect some recalibrated SRT-4 PCMs?

Look forward to the pics and write-up. You da'man!
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Pics will be up in a few days. I tried, and yes, indeed, there is an 85 MPH limit on the cruise
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Hey, have you thought of getting a TB from a regular Neon or maybe from a PT instead? Perhaps it would mount up easier...

Also, what about an aftermarket TB. Maybe we could convince one of the vendors to produce a 60mm TB with provisions for two cables.

That would be a great product. It makes a cruise control install easy plus it gives you great performance. I'd buy that...
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Here is a page that might be of interest.

http://www.neon.enthusiasts.com/howto/cabin-cc.mhtml
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theres some pics on this thread. Paid Assistance for Your Installations in the DFW Area its been done before

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