Okay guys, I've been having some questions running through my head about all the mods from the SRT-4. Main question being: Are they (parts) interchangeable with my Strat Sedan? and: If so, are they plug 'n' play?
I've tried asking around from other sources but they have turned up nil for me, so I came back here to see if I could find answers from those who drive what I'm looking for. Please, any information is better than none at all. Many thanks in advance.
Yes they are afew small mods with the oil tubes but other than that it plug and pray
Now is that a typo, I hope so. But thanks for the input. I mean if it's plug and PRAY, you implying that it's gonna need some tweeks here and there for it to work with my ride?
more specifically, you can have all the mechanical parts bolt up, but you have to deal with the oil feed, oil return, coolant feed & return lines
on the srt4 the attachment points for these is already supplied, and stock lines connect between the block and the turbo chra
in a stratus set-up, the connections will not be there (being a non-turbo spec block)
in some cases we just have plugged off the coolant connections at the turbo, so all thats left is to make a high pressure oil hose/line to run from the oil sender port, up to the turbo, then you have to drill the back side of the oil pan, and install a pipe (an fittings back-to-back work well) so then a hose from the turbo will drain oil back to the pan
you'll need to improve the fuel supply, larger fuel pump (srt4 stock, or walbro) larger injectors, a best is a return line, with adjustable fpr (1:1 ratio)...
...and the computer wont be available for boost control, so you'll have to run a manual boost controller, or ebc
i'd get a s2 wga, so you can at least adjust somewhat
aside form that, one of the best things you could do, is to get 4 sets of srt4 pistons/rods, they are cheap brand new through dealer...and without pulling the engine from car, or crank, we just installed the new ones (with new bearings) in from the top (with cylinder head off)...was pretty easy then
the stock 2.4L non-turbo con-rods are pretty weak...
...after that, the other thing that can stand changing is the exhaust valves, as the non-stock ones are not up to the heat cycling that the increased boost will create
hope this helps some!
Quote: Originally Posted by DocSharkey
Quote: Originally Posted by GLH
Yes they are afew small mods with the oil tubes but other than that it plug and pray
Now is that a typo, I hope so. But thanks for the input. I mean if it's plug and PRAY, you implying that it's gonna need some tweeks here and there for it to work with my ride?
more specifically, you can have all the mechanical parts bolt up, but you have to deal with the oil feed, oil return, coolant feed & return lines
on the srt4 the attachment points for these is already supplied, and stock lines connect between the block and the turbo chra
in a stratus set-up, the connections will not be there (being a non-turbo spec block)
in some cases we just have plugged off the coolant connections at the turbo, so all thats left is to make a high pressure oil hose/line to run from the oil sender port, up to the turbo, then you have to drill the back side of the oil pan, and install a pipe (an fittings back-to-back work well) so then a hose from the turbo will drain oil back to the pan
you'll need to improve the fuel supply, larger fuel pump (srt4 stock, or walbro) larger injectors, a best is a return line, with adjustable fpr (1:1 ratio)...
...and the computer wont be available for boost control, so you'll have to run a manual boost controller, or ebc
i'd get a s2 wga, so you can at least adjust somewhat
aside form that, one of the best things you could do, is to get 4 sets of srt4 pistons/rods, they are cheap brand new through dealer...and without pulling the engine from car, or crank, we just installed the new ones (with new bearings) in from the top (with cylinder head off)...was pretty easy then
the stock 2.4L non-turbo con-rods are pretty weak...
...after that, the other thing that can stand changing is the exhaust valves, as the non-stock ones are not up to the heat cycling that the increased boost will create
hope this helps some!
Quote: Originally Posted by DocSharkey
Quote: Originally Posted by GLH
Yes they are afew small mods with the oil tubes but other than that it plug and pray
Now is that a typo, I hope so. But thanks for the input. I mean if it's plug and PRAY, you implying that it's gonna need some tweeks here and there for it to work with my ride?
Honor & Country,
Doc
You might as well just buy the SRT engine and swap it. You CANNOT fit stock lengnth SRT rod in a standard 2.4l, our block is 1" taller.
Also the srt block has oil squirters in the block to cool the pistons. This is vital at higher boost levels.
Dude, look on ebay and get a full pull out, you will be vastly happier in the end.
One other thing, the Mexican model cirrus H.O. is basically the same engine from the srt, but it has a different exhaust manifiold. I dont know how different, but different.
I would look at installing a megasquirt PCM, you'll probably have less problems than trying to get the stock srt comouter to work.
more specifically, you can have all the mechanical parts bolt up, but you have to deal with the oil feed, oil return, coolant feed & return lines
on the srt4 the attachment points for these is already supplied, and stock lines connect between the block and the turbo chra
in a stratus set-up, the connections will not be there (being a non-turbo spec block)
in some cases we just have plugged off the coolant connections at the turbo, so all thats left is to make a high pressure oil hose/line to run from the oil sender port, up to the turbo, then you have to drill the back side of the oil pan, and install a pipe (an fittings back-to-back work well) so then a hose from the turbo will drain oil back to the pan
you'll need to improve the fuel supply, larger fuel pump (srt4 stock, or walbro) larger injectors, a best is a return line, with adjustable fpr (1:1 ratio)...
...and the computer wont be available for boost control, so you'll have to run a manual boost controller, or ebc
i'd get a s2 wga, so you can at least adjust somewhat
aside form that, one of the best things you could do, is to get 4 sets of srt4 pistons/rods, they are cheap brand new through dealer...and without pulling the engine from car, or crank, we just installed the new ones (with new bearings) in from the top (with cylinder head off)...was pretty easy then
the stock 2.4L non-turbo con-rods are pretty weak...
...after that, the other thing that can stand changing is the exhaust valves, as the non-stock ones are not up to the heat cycling that the increased boost will create
hope this helps some!
Quote: Originally Posted by DocSharkey
Quote: Originally Posted by GLH
Yes they are afew small mods with the oil tubes but other than that it plug and pray
Now is that a typo, I hope so. But thanks for the input. I mean if it's plug and PRAY, you implying that it's gonna need some tweeks here and there for it to work with my ride?
Honor & Country,
Doc
You might as well just buy the SRT engine and swap it. You CANNOT fit stock lengnth SRT rod in a standard 2.4l, our block is 1" taller.
Also the srt block has oil squirters in the block to cool the pistons. This is vital at higher boost levels.
Dude, look on ebay and get a full pull out, you will be vastly happier in the end.
One other thing, the Mexican model cirrus H.O. is basically the same engine from the srt, but it has a different exhaust manifiold. I dont know how different, but different.
I would look at installing a megasquirt PCM, you'll probably have less problems than trying to get the stock srt comouter to work.
good luck
thats wrong...the deck height is the same, srt4 piston+rod sets bolt directly in...
..."been-there-done-that"
seen as how push'n close to 500hp now on that combo, it's plenty strong for what you are intending...
...so getting a whole srt4 engine is not necessary!
the srt4 engine will not work in your car, and installing a stand-alone will only cost you a lot more $$...
...a well put together RR-AFPR set-up will work well, keeping the stock ECU in place (as its not controlling boost, etc.)
sounds like more work than it actually is...good luck!
more specifically, you can have all the mechanical parts bolt up, but you have to deal with the oil feed, oil return, coolant feed & return lines
on the srt4 the attachment points for these is already supplied, and stock lines connect between the block and the turbo chra
in a stratus set-up, the connections will not be there (being a non-turbo spec block)
in some cases we just have plugged off the coolant connections at the turbo, so all thats left is to make a high pressure oil hose/line to run from the oil sender port, up to the turbo, then you have to drill the back side of the oil pan, and install a pipe (an fittings back-to-back work well) so then a hose from the turbo will drain oil back to the pan
you'll need to improve the fuel supply, larger fuel pump (srt4 stock, or walbro) larger injectors, a best is a return line, with adjustable fpr (1:1 ratio)...
...and the computer wont be available for boost control, so you'll have to run a manual boost controller, or ebc
i'd get a s2 wga, so you can at least adjust somewhat
aside form that, one of the best things you could do, is to get 4 sets of srt4 pistons/rods, they are cheap brand new through dealer...and without pulling the engine from car, or crank, we just installed the new ones (with new bearings) in from the top (with cylinder head off)...was pretty easy then
the stock 2.4L non-turbo con-rods are pretty weak...
...after that, the other thing that can stand changing is the exhaust valves, as the non-stock ones are not up to the heat cycling that the increased boost will create
hope this helps some!
Quote: Originally Posted by DocSharkey
Quote: Originally Posted by GLH
Yes they are afew small mods with the oil tubes but other than that it plug and pray
Now is that a typo, I hope so. But thanks for the input. I mean if it's plug and PRAY, you implying that it's gonna need some tweeks here and there for it to work with my ride?
Honor & Country,
Doc
You might as well just buy the SRT engine and swap it. You CANNOT fit stock lengnth SRT rod in a standard 2.4l, our block is 1" taller.
Also the srt block has oil squirters in the block to cool the pistons. This is vital at higher boost levels.
Dude, look on ebay and get a full pull out, you will be vastly happier in the end.
One other thing, the Mexican model cirrus H.O. is basically the same engine from the srt, but it has a different exhaust manifiold. I dont know how different, but different.
I would look at installing a megasquirt PCM, you'll probably have less problems than trying to get the stock srt comouter to work.
good luck
thats wrong...the deck height is the same, srt4 piston+rod sets bolt directly in...
more specifically, you can have all the mechanical parts bolt up, but you have to deal with the oil feed, oil return, coolant feed & return lines
on the srt4 the attachment points for these is already supplied, and stock lines connect between the block and the turbo chra
in a stratus set-up, the connections will not be there (being a non-turbo spec block)
in some cases we just have plugged off the coolant connections at the turbo, so all thats left is to make a high pressure oil hose/line to run from the oil sender port, up to the turbo, then you have to drill the back side of the oil pan, and install a pipe (an fittings back-to-back work well) so then a hose from the turbo will drain oil back to the pan
you'll need to improve the fuel supply, larger fuel pump (srt4 stock, or walbro) larger injectors, a best is a return line, with adjustable fpr (1:1 ratio)...
...and the computer wont be available for boost control, so you'll have to run a manual boost controller, or ebc
i'd get a s2 wga, so you can at least adjust somewhat
aside form that, one of the best things you could do, is to get 4 sets of srt4 pistons/rods, they are cheap brand new through dealer...and without pulling the engine from car, or crank, we just installed the new ones (with new bearings) in from the top (with cylinder head off)...was pretty easy then
the stock 2.4L non-turbo con-rods are pretty weak...
...after that, the other thing that can stand changing is the exhaust valves, as the non-stock ones are not up to the heat cycling that the increased boost will create
hope this helps some!
Quote: Originally Posted by DocSharkey
Quote: Originally Posted by GLH
Yes they are afew small mods with the oil tubes but other than that it plug and pray
Now is that a typo, I hope so. But thanks for the input. I mean if it's plug and PRAY, you implying that it's gonna need some tweeks here and there for it to work with my ride?
Honor & Country,
Doc
You might as well just buy the SRT engine and swap it. You CANNOT fit stock lengnth SRT rod in a standard 2.4l, our block is 1" taller.
Also the srt block has oil squirters in the block to cool the pistons. This is vital at higher boost levels.
Dude, look on ebay and get a full pull out, you will be vastly happier in the end.
One other thing, the Mexican model cirrus H.O. is basically the same engine from the srt, but it has a different exhaust manifiold. I dont know how different, but different.
I would look at installing a megasquirt PCM, you'll probably have less problems than trying to get the stock srt comouter to work.
good luck
thats wrong...the deck height is the same, srt4 piston+rod sets bolt directly in...
..."been-there-done-that"
If you have done it then I stand corrected.....
no worries...there is a difference in total deck height between the 2.0L and 2.4L, but otherwise the 2.4Ls all retain the same height...
...nice thing about that is that a brand new srt4 piston+ring+rod combo is cheap still through dealer, used to be like only $70 each
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SRT-4 parts swap to Strat Sedan
on that combo, it's plenty strong for what you are intending...
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