Hi, names travis and im from the central Illinois area. I just recently sold my last DSM (ive owned and built 14 over the last 5 years) and am now trying to get involved in the Neon/Mopar scene to try out something a little different. I pretty much know nothing about the srt4 other then basic mechanical know how. I am looking to find out a few things to get me where i need to be for the start of my new project. Are things interchangable between the srt4 and the 2.0l n/a engines, will certain srt4 items bolt up to a n/a 2.0l, etc. So if anyone reading this has a little bit of helpfull info i will greatly appreciate it. Also, sorry if this is posted in the wrong section because this site is a little hard to figure out at first!!!!
I picked up a 2000 dodge neon es a couple weeks ago with a 2.0l DOHC engine, a hahn super 20g turbo kit installed, an srt 4 front mount intercooler, stock srt 4 catback exhaust and a few other goodies (gauges, srt4 shifter,lowering springs,etc.)....
My first question in this quest for a new project type is:
Are the SRT 4 external engine parts, exhaust parts, and turbo accessories interchangable with my engine?? i have the DOHC 2.0l engine out of a 01 neon R/T installed. I have a few buddies that have been upgrading there srt4's and i would like to upgrade all my stock parts to the srt4 parts ( most of them are atleast a 1% or more gain in performance and functionality with the turbo setup). I am also curious to know if the SRT4 neon has the same intake/exhuast manifold bolt patterns?
Hi, names travis and im from the central Illinois area. I just recently sold my last DSM (ive owned and built 14 over the last 5 years) and am now trying to get involved in the Neon/Mopar scene to try out something a little different. I pretty much know nothing about the srt4 other then basic mechanical know how. I am looking to find out a few things to get me where i need to be for the start of my new project. Are things interchangable between the srt4 and the 2.0l n/a engines, will certain srt4 items bolt up to a n/a 2.0l, etc. So if anyone reading this has a little bit of helpfull info i will greatly appreciate it. Also, sorry if this is posted in the wrong section because this site is a little hard to figure out at first!!!!
I picked up a 2000 dodge neon es a couple weeks ago with a 2.0l DOHC engine, a hahn super 20g turbo kit installed, an srt 4 front mount intercooler, stock srt 4 catback exhaust and a few other goodies (gauges, srt4 shifter,lowering springs,etc.)....
My first question in this quest for a new project type is:
Are the SRT 4 external engine parts, exhaust parts, and turbo accessories interchangable with my engine?? i have the DOHC 2.0l engine out of a 01 neon R/T installed. I have a few buddies that have been upgrading there srt4's and i would like to upgrade all my stock parts to the srt4 parts ( most of them are atleast a 1% or more gain in performance and functionality with the turbo setup). I am also curious to know if the SRT4 neon has the same intake/exhuast manifold bolt patterns?
any input will be appreciated...
thanks
travis
the short answer is no. you're actually better off with the higher reving 2l mill than the 2.4 IMO. the 2.4 is stout yes, but rather than doing all the fab in order to make the srt internals fit into your 2.0 is not worth it. it would be cheaper to just swap a srt motor into your neon, and put the 20g on it.
the srt/neon is a great car. the engine isn't necessarily as power friendly as the 4g63 in your old dsms, but it is much more reliable when taken care of. as far as your 2.0, i believe its still just about the same as the dsm 420a's, so you should be pretty familiar with it.
thanks for your reply but my question was not about the internal engine parts.... i was asking if the manifolds and transmissions or any EXTERNAL engine bay parts were interchangable?? If i utilize an srt4 ECM, will i be ok to run a srt4 coil pack, plug wires, fuel injectors, etc...??
I would also like to swap my 20g setup for a stock srt4 turbo setup. The 20g is just too big for my current setup and the stock srt turbo will spool alot faster. I am only looking to run roughly 10-12 psi until i either find a 2.4 engine to swap in or build up another 2.0l.. I have been told that as far as suspension and exhaust everything is universal between the different models of neon (as long as they are both 4 door).
Another big question is: Will an SRT 4 transmission bolt up to a 2.0L engine. I dont think my tranny will hold up very long and they are pretty weak anyway.
Sorry if these questions are a bother but like i said above, i have no idea and there are NOT as many help forums for the neon as there are for the DSM...
thanks for your reply but my question was not about the internal engine parts.... i was asking if the manifolds and transmissions or any EXTERNAL engine bay parts were interchangable?? If i utilize an srt4 ECM, will i be ok to run a srt4 coil pack, plug wires, fuel injectors, etc...??
I would also like to swap my 20g setup for a stock srt4 turbo setup. The 20g is just too big for my current setup and the stock srt turbo will spool alot faster. I am only looking to run roughly 10-12 psi until i either find a 2.4 engine to swap in or build up another 2.0l.. I have been told that as far as suspension and exhaust everything is universal between the different models of neon (as long as they are both 4 door).
Another big question is: Will an SRT 4 transmission bolt up to a 2.0L engine. I dont think my tranny will hold up very long and they are pretty weak anyway.
Sorry if these questions are a bother but like i said above, i have no idea and there are NOT as many help forums for the neon as there are for the DSM...
are there any other help/faq sites for the neons out there??? i want to find out the different specs on the models, how to's , etc????
I guess no one on this site can help with the questions i have..... I do not want to use the 2.4 liter engine, im just asking if the intake manifold, exhaust manifold, coil packs, fuel injectors, transmissions, clutch, etc are interchangable with the 2.0 liter engine. I guess i will find out myself in the next week or so when i get a few donor parts from a buddy....
there is a local site for you, but i don't remember the url. its for the chicago/midwest area. i'm sure you can find it on google. also, if you want info for your neon, go to www.neons.org. there is a LOT of good info on there.
these questions are definitely NOT a bother bro. its good that youre doing your research, and usually thats what these forums are for. although, there is a TON of flaming on this site. anyways, most of the external engine bay parts should bolt up to the dohc, but i can't guarantee. you're probably doing right by ditching the 20g for now. as far as the pcm, yes, you can use the srt injectors and stuff. but the coil is actually the same part as far as i know(so is the fuel pump, fpr, and a bunch of other shit). like i said. best place for you is www.neons.org you'll find a bunch of guys there who know a lot about base neons. hope some of this helps you out. and good luck with your build!
thanks bro... ill keep you guys posted on how things turn out. I got a buddy who has his srt up at AMS in chicago getting a full build and he has every stock part up for my grabs cause he is running a full AMS longblock and everything.... He's a rich f*er...
thanks bro... ill keep you guys posted on how things turn out. I got a buddy who has his srt up at AMS in chicago getting a full build and he has every stock part up for my grabs cause he is running a full AMS longblock and everything.... He's a rich f*er...
he can give me his stock parts for free if he doesnt want em
that way i can part out and have AMS build me a motor for another car
come join us over at Chicagoland SRT Club. The guys are local IL people and can help you out there. Good group of people and they know their stuff. Just sigh up and introduce yourself and then shoot away with questions. Also include some pics when you do your intro thread
Yes suspension is interchangable, exhaust is too... manifolds are both different though, in and out!
If you want to put the stock srt turbo on you'll need an adapter, they are out there somewhere but i bet their hard to find (maybe you can find info about that one on 2GN.ORG :: Index, another neon site with lots of info)
As far as clutch and tranny, you cant use an srt clutch on the neon transmission, but an srt tranny will bolt onto a neon with a little work (inputshafts are the same).
But the neon tranny is actually pretty bulletproof.... there are people out there who run their srt swap with the T-350, and even a guy with a swap on 20" wheels!!
...... an aftermarket clutch will probably solve your doubts, BUT
you will NEED a phantom grip or a quaife differential, to make sure you don't eject your dif pin!!!
Oh and the srt coil- pack and injectors won't work without the srt pcm as far as i know, they are 2.0 specific.
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Last edited by DutchNeon : 07-22-2009 at 03:19 AM.
the srt turbofold will bolt right up to a dohc neon but the 20g is better. i beleive you can run a srt clutch if it has a modular clutch already. and i dont know about NEED a PG or quaife but it will help ... or you can do the mustang diff mod(look it up on the neon.org) as i have been boosted in my first gen for a year with no probs from the diff other than broke axles
now i dont know about in a 2nd gen but for a first gen a 2.4 stratus motor swap with stock srt4 rods and pistons makes for a nice install. itll hold more then the 2l motor, makes a bit more torque and is not to expensive
edit ... maybe it was a nonmodular clutch .. i cant rememebr
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Turbo First gen R/T
13.9@110 on 8 lbs(boost leak and NO TUNE spinning DR's through 3rd)
well i have been reading up on the above mentioned forums and finding out some very helpfull information. I am just gonna use my OEM trans until it breaks and then ill do something different. One question i do have is "will SRT4 trans internals fit into a t350 gear box/bell housing(input shaft only)???? If so, i have another trans (t350) laying around that has a toasted 1st and 2nd gear and would just intall srt4 trans parts to beef it up a bit. This would allow me to use my lighter wheel hubs, axles, etc...
My main issue at the moment is finding someone with a 2.0l sohc (yeap its a sohc not a dohc) that is running a turbo kit that can hook me up with a vacuum schematic. I have a few vac lines that are plugged or blocked off from the previous owner and need to see where they go... On the DSM's we only used about three vac lines and rid of the rest but i want to keep as many as possibly for good engine operation and emissions (even though illinois has almost no emission laws). so could anyone on this site hook me up with a drawing or a schematic???
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