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Old 07-13-2006, 05:15 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Best stage3 spark plugs?

I have a 2004 Srt-4 with a Stage 3..and I need to do a wire/plug change. I can find too many people on here posting plug/wire threads that are for a stage 3. Any suggestions?

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hemi plugs from the ram. Just trust me.
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I've got the Ngk Iridiums now, recommended by DCR. In the SRT Engineer chat the other day, I thought they recommended the Platinums from the SRT 6.1. I have not had time to cross them over to see what they actually are. Might want to check that out. Who to trust?
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i have been having spark blow out so bad lately (i think thats what it is). my car ran beautiful with the iridiums for a while...now i cant get no plugs to run right.
so im interested in everyone's response.
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I started with the Ngk Mopar recommends. About a thousand miles use on stage 2. Soon after I put in the Iridiums from DCR. The engine felt smoother to me with the Iridiums. Had the gap set at about .37 on both and never messed with them again. After SRT recommending those 6.1 plugs, I might try them out some day.
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When I had my motor replaced, they installed the NGK's on my stage 3. They drove fine until I actually turned the boost up and stepped on the gas, then the car fell on it's face.
When I got it home I swapped out for some new Denso ITV-22's and the problem was completely gone. I also have Denso wires and from what I hear that makes all the difference in the world. I run two steps colder and it's all good under the hood.
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I use the one's mopar recommends with Magnacor 8.5 mm wires.
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Quote: Originally Posted by gdflys
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x2...I gapped the NGK 4306's all the way down to .030 and still got blow out. I went with the ITL20's at the factory gap and haven't had a problem since.

You'll get a lot of different answers. First try the NGK 4306's to see if they work for you. They're inexpensive.
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I use 4306 ngk's on my stg3 with awesome results. At a worn .040 they gave me blow out, but I replaced them with new ones at .035 and have had zero issues. I don't like platium or iridiums plugs, copper or go home. I buy plugs by the dozen. I like to keep 3\4 sets of plugs in the tools box. Once I get spark blowout, I change them. I don't waste time regapping. If you take a good look at the electrode on them after you get blowout. You'll see that it's worn, atleast the plugs that I've seen are that way. Remember guys that on the 4306 the electrode is a V shape on the tip. Those points on the end get worn, and hense the BO. I've personally seen it on the stock champions, where the square flat electrode is worn or have a uneven electrode, and that's why I was getting BO. They get worn away, and the gap is to large, then Bo. That's the main reason I went with the 4306's. I was still stg2, but it showed me that the edge of the stock champions are where the spark is coming from and lighting the flame in the cylinder. It makes sense that they went with the 4306's as a upgrade, because the V shape electrode channels the spark to where it's needed, and gives a nice juicy spark. On the 4306's that I've pulled the electrodes are worn at the points and nowhere else. I just notice that if you're running stockish plugs at whatever gap, on the 4306 you'll need to lower it, only because of the electrode design\gap. It may be .035 at tips, but from the center of the electrode to the ground strap is maybe .050, you'll see what I'm talking about it you get some 4306's. That's just my experience, now that I'm stg3, I'm sticking with the 4306. I haven't had a single issue with the plugs after I got the gap down. I run them til I get BO, then just regap a new set, and I'm money. The car sounds so much meaner, and thoaty with a new set of plugs. The after fire\back fire is very noticable after new plugs are in her and the start up is always better with new plugs.
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Denso ITL20's

x2...I gapped the NGK 4306's all the way down to .030 and still got blow out. I went with the ITL20's at the factory gap and haven't had a problem since.

You'll get a lot of different answers. First try the NGK 4306's to see if they work for you. They're inexpensive.

I noticed that once my plugs gave me blowout, they're done. Regapping did nothing to them. I hope that you did that regapping on new plugs, if not, that's probably why. I know that 20psi gauge is buried on my stg3 with the 4306 at .035 with no spark blowout.

I ran a .045-.048 gap on the stock champions with my stg2toys car and it loved them. Once I got blowout and changed them, all was good again.

I had my 4306 with a few hundred miles on them at first with stg3, it gave me BO, but only when I seen 15+psi, and it wasn't real bad blowout, but I could feel it. Once I went home and changed them out for some new one at .035, money ever since. MP3 player not included.
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Denso ITL20's

x2...I gapped the NGK 4306's all the way down to .030 and still got blow out. I went with the ITL20's at the factory gap and haven't had a problem since.

You'll get a lot of different answers. First try the NGK 4306's to see if they work for you. They're inexpensive.

I noticed that once my plugs gave me blowout, they're done. Regapping did nothing to them. I hope that you did that regapping on new plugs, if not, that's probably why. I know that 20psi gauge is buried on my stg3 with the 4306 at .035 with no spark blowout.

I ran a .045-.048 gap on the stock champions with my stg2toys car and it loved them. Once I got blowout and changed them, all was good again.

I had my 4306 with a few hundred miles on them at first with stg3, it gave me BO, but only when I seen 15+psi, and it wasn't real bad blowout, but I could feel it. Once I went home and changed them out for some new one at .035, money ever since. MP3 player not included.

No. I wasn't gapping used plugs. Like I said, the 4306's are inexpensive and available at any Napa.
I used the 4306 gapped at .040 with Stage 2, and I never had a problem.
With Stage 3 and new 4306's, I gapped all the way down to .030 and still had blowout. I couldn't see trying to gap it any tighter. If you've seen one gapped that low, then you know what I mean. It's not pretty.
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Denso ITL20's

x2...I gapped the NGK 4306's all the way down to .030 and still got blow out. I went with the ITL20's at the factory gap and haven't had a problem since.

You'll get a lot of different answers. First try the NGK 4306's to see if they work for you. They're inexpensive.

I noticed that once my plugs gave me blowout, they're done. Regapping did nothing to them. I hope that you did that regapping on new plugs, if not, that's probably why. I know that 20psi gauge is buried on my stg3 with the 4306 at .035 with no spark blowout.

I ran a .045-.048 gap on the stock champions with my stg2toys car and it loved them. Once I got blowout and changed them, all was good again.

I had my 4306 with a few hundred miles on them at first with stg3, it gave me BO, but only when I seen 15+psi, and it wasn't real bad blowout, but I could feel it. Once I went home and changed them out for some new one at .035, money ever since. MP3 player not included.

No. I wasn't gapping used plugs. Like I said, the 4306's are inexpensive and available at any Napa.
I used the 4306 gapped at .040 with Stage 2, and I never had a problem.
With Stage 3 and new 4306's, I gapped all the way down to .030 and still had blowout. I couldn't see trying to gap it any tighter. If you've seen one gapped that low, then you know what I mean. It's not pretty.

I hear you on the gapping bit, I don't like the looks of them at .035 and to go to .030 Duck that. I'm not in the know on the plugs you're talking about the Denso's but how the electrod, what's it look like. If it's a small point it probably would run great, that's my guess, based off what I have seen in my 2years experience with plugs in my car. It's all about that electrode, and harnessing that spark energy to get it lit.
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Talking Thanks guys..

Thanks for all the helpful advice...Im going to do some research on some of these plugs and wires you guys mentioned.
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What about colder plugs? Why?
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