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Old 12-03-2006, 08:13 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default 3 Bar map and TIP sensors, Stage 2 Vac lines rewire

Can anyone help me out with this? I recently purchased Stage 2 w/o toys, and I need to know what do I do with the new sensors? I know the Map has to be installed, but the TIP? I have re run my vac lines so the PCM doesnt control boost, and the RED and WHITE lines have also been removed. Do I still replace the stock TIP sensor with the one that came with the Stage 2? What exactly does it do, and with the absence of the white line connected, does it still have a function on the car? Do I still need to clamp it along with the MAP sensor. I have the PTP Map/TIP clamp. ANY feedback would be much appreciated.
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Can anyone help me out with this? I recently purchased Stage 2 w/o toys, and I need to know what do I do with the new sensors? I know the Map has to be installed, but the TIP? I have re run my vac lines so the PCM doesnt control boost, and the RED and WHITE lines have also been removed. Do I still replace the stock TIP sensor with the one that came with the Stage 2? What exactly does it do, and with the absence of the white line connected, does it still have a function on the car? Do I still need to clamp it along with the MAP sensor. I have the PTP Map/TIP clamp. ANY feedback would be much appreciated.

Yes put the white and red lines back to stock stage 2 likes more boost
it runs higher than stock so the new pcm won't freak out like stage 0 does.
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Old 12-17-2006, 10:01 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Sorry, must be extra tired or something, but did you say to put the red and white vac lines back on the car since I am now stage2? If I hook them back up, what wil be the benefit/gain?

Thank you for taking the time to help me out, you were the only one...
Also if these are the only STOCK vac lines connected to the solenoids, do I have to reconnect ANY of the others? I like the PCM not controlling boost.

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Can anyone help me out with this? I recently purchased Stage 2 w/o toys, and I need to know what do I do with the new sensors? I know the Map has to be installed, but the TIP? I have re run my vac lines so the PCM doesnt control boost, and the RED and WHITE lines have also been removed. Do I still replace the stock TIP sensor with the one that came with the Stage 2? What exactly does it do, and with the absence of the white line connected, does it still have a function on the car? Do I still need to clamp it along with the MAP sensor. I have the PTP Map/TIP clamp. ANY feedback would be much appreciated.

Yes put the white and red lines back to stock stage 2 likes more boost
it runs higher than stock so the new pcm won't freak out like stage 0 does.

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The only line I have hooked up is the white line. The red one isn't needed and won't help. The white one I thought was never supposed to be taken off.
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When I put on my stage2, I didnt change any hoses, lines at all. I just put on the new sensors? and left everything the same. Maybe I did something wrong here, the car boost more and is faster?
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I think you may have wasted your money on the Stage 2. The only real gain you got was a WGA & injectors. With the MAP clamp & the vacuum rewire the PCM is almost useless. If your running a MAP clamp then the new MAP sensor is useless & with the vac. rewire the TIP is also useless. You could always put it all back to stock w/ Stage 2 & enjoy the power improvement over stock but, if you're planning on taking an aftermarket approach to more power then stay away from Mopar upgrades.
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hey, I hear ya, and maybe I could be wrong, but I dont think I wasted my money on stage 2. Alot of people have this set up, with many of them using the Apexi SAFCII instead of a Map clamp, which I am in the midst of getting, and reporting good things about their setup. The stage 2 WGA??? I wouldnt use it anyway, I dont see a benefit of it because I have the Kinetic WGA. I am sure that the stage 2 PCM does have its advantages over a Stage 1 or Stage 0 with the exact same setup as what I have. What do you thik? Anyone else have any opinions? I am sure we would like to hear em all. Besides, I still have the red and white line still connected, and I never clamped my car, I sold my clamp, unused, to another member, cause I am getting the Apexi SAFCII.


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I think you may have wasted your money on the Stage 2. The only real gain you got was a WGA & injectors. With the MAP clamp & the vacuum rewire the PCM is almost useless. If your running a MAP clamp then the new MAP sensor is useless & with the vac. rewire the TIP is also useless. You could always put it all back to stock w/ Stage 2 & enjoy the power improvement over stock but, if you're planning on taking an aftermarket approach to more power then stay away from Mopar upgrades.


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