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Old 06-20-2004, 06:47 PM   #61 (permalink)
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Excellent write-up Nick. You think you're busy now. Way to go pal. LOL...

Hey steve, what times you runnin now? How's your tune? My prospective setup is very similar to yours so I am very interested!
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Old 06-20-2004, 08:58 PM   #62 (permalink)
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Excellent info in every regard!! Even for general information, i feel so much smarter now . Cant wait to get my car so i can start modding...

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Quote: Originally Posted by OperationStorm
Good job so far on the Turbo guide. This will definitely help the less knowledgeable people like myself.

Maybe an idea to add would be your info/opinion on the combination of using the Mopar Stages 0, 1, or 2 along with your Turbo upgrades. What are the advantages/disadvantages of using one Stage over another in conjunction with the AGP Turbo upgrades? Does one Stage over another create difficulties that the others don't? If there is answers to these kind of questions maybe you can help.


i, too, would also like to know this, i want 400whp with a 50/.63, safcII, fuel pump and 650 inj. do i have to run a s1 or s2 ECU?
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Old 06-23-2004, 04:28 PM   #64 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by OperationStorm
Good job so far on the Turbo guide. This will definitely help the less knowledgeable people like myself.

Maybe an idea to add would be your info/opinion on the combination of using the Mopar Stages 0, 1, or 2 along with your Turbo upgrades. What are the advantages/disadvantages of using one Stage over another in conjunction with the AGP Turbo upgrades? Does one Stage over another create difficulties that the others don't? If there is answers to these kind of questions maybe you can help.


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All of them work. If you want to waste money on Stage 2, then go ahead, you'll get a higher redline and a 3 bar. Alot of people run fine on stage 0, stage 1, and stage 2. Get whatever floats your boat. Stage 0 seems to make the most power due to the advanced timing. Alot of people have good luck though with stage 2 also.
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so to beat a dead horse even further, Nick, i have Stage 2 and would gladly sell it and go back to stage 0 with the turbo kit. what are your thoughts on that?
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Quote: Originally Posted by srtboy
so to beat a dead horse even further, Nick, i have Stage 2 and would gladly sell it and go back to stage 0 with the turbo kit. what are your thoughts on that?

It's really a toss up. You do get some advantages with stage2, we all know what they are.

Stage 0 gives you the most aggressive timing advance.
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Don’t all piggybacks allow X% of adjustment over what the stock ECU is setup for? Thus is why you run 650’s with the stage 1 + piggyback and the 750’s with stage 2 + piggyback.

Please note if this is not correct then it's b/c I don't know crap about crap I just read a lot...
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i meant in regards to which PCM would yield better results. it sounds like the aggresive timing advance of stage 0 maybe be more benficial for power output with your kit. (thanks Ben) and obviously i'd be happy to sell it because for me it was a waste of money!

thanks for your time Nick.

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Quote: Originally Posted by srt4hokie
Don’t all piggybacks allow X% of adjustment over what the stock ECU is setup for? Thus is why you run 650’s with the stage 1 + piggyback and the 750’s with stage 2 + piggyback.

Please note if this is not correct then it's b/c I don't know crap about crap I just read a lot...

Good work, you are correct.
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thanks for all the important info!! so if stage 1 works well w/650cc, and stage 2 works well with 750cc, then what would stage 0/stock ecu work better with?? I'm debating which ecu (stock or stage 1) will be better for use with the SAFC II and say, 650cc injectors...
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SRTboy,
The S2 does have some nice features so I'd say only sell it if you can get most of what you paid for it. Remember, you will be able to sell the S2 injectors ether way so there's a few bucks. When our PnP standalone is out you will be selling all that stuff including the SAFC anyway

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Old 06-24-2004, 04:26 AM   #73 (permalink)
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When our PnP standalone is out you will be selling all that stuff including the SAFC anyway



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Oh sheet you went and did it, now we all get to sit around and think on this one...
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SRTboy,
The S2 does have some nice features so I'd say only sell it if you can get most of what you paid for it. Remember, you will be able to sell the S2 injectors ether way so there's a few bucks. When our PnP standalone is out you will be selling all that stuff including the SAFC anyway

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For S0 you want 650's.

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PnP Standalone? Hey wait a second now Kevin thats not fair, need info.
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I'm VERY interested in the PnP standalone!! I would like to know details on when, how much and everything else you can tell us about.

The standalone will get rid of the need for our stock/stage 1/2 ecu's??

You'd also need a dyno to properly tune the standalone? or would a wideband be good enough?? thanks for the info as I don't think the SAFC II is going to be good enough for daily driving and 400HP!
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