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Old 03-27-2008, 11:15 PM   #1 (permalink)
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my fuel trims are out of wack. im running rc 750s and a dtec. which would be best, also im getting super rich before i spool
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I say sct if you got the bread for it if not get a returnline. Its a cheap alternative in comparison but nothing is wrong with either choice imho. From what ive read your car will make more power and run safer with a properly tuned sct flashed pcm.
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AGP would be able to develop a tune for you without your returnline, but it's recommended.

As said above, I'd go with the SCT first; that will get your fueling where it needs to be.

It'll put you in the safe zone, sure, but even I can say a 5 minute flash gave unbelievable results with power pickup compared to full piggyback tunes.

So far I'm loving their flash!
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I would suggest the flash for anyone running larger injectors and a larger turbo. Installation is easy, and all of the necessary corrections/injector scaling are done on the PCM level.
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I would suggest the flash for anyone running larger injectors and a larger turbo. Installation is easy, and all of the necessary corrections/injector scaling are done on the PCM level.

Not to mention Kevin is awesome and gets back to you super quick with other tunes! I can't wait for the weather to get nicer so I can really test it...where it counts (dyno+track)!
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last time i dorve my car i was pulling -19 @24psi and a m7 and m3 nozzle and dont think i would ever need a returnline with the sct, givin i think i have enough fuel.
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last time i dorve my car i was pulling -19 @24psi and a m7 and m3 nozzle and dont think i would ever need a returnline with the sct, givin i think i have enough fuel.

Yes if you're pulling that much fuel then you have plenty and the SCT would be more than perfect for you. If the fuel is there, the SCT can take care of the rest
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How much do these custom SCT flashes cost? And do I need to have my own Xcal2 to load it, or can I ship you my pcm for you to load?

I have your return line on a stage 2/3 hybrid, and I'm tired of the safc.
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Our flash will include its own programmer. The flash is $600. The 3-bar map sensor and tip mod is $100 if you are not using the Stage 2/3 sensors.
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How much do these custom SCT flashes cost? And do I need to have my own Xcal2 to load it, or can I ship you my pcm for you to load?

I have your return line on a stage 2/3 hybrid, and I'm tired of the safc.

You get the SCT flasher along with 3 flashes pre-loaded into the flasher (a medium map, a richer map and a leaner map). They include the software and cable needed to transfer flashes from your desktop/laptop to the flasher, too.

If you are running a S2/S3 hybrid, you most likely already have the 3-bar TIP/MAP sensors and can just get the $600 flash. Call them up, tell them your basic mods, and they'll send it out to you.

Yes, SAFC alone is shit, imo.
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Yes, SAFC alone is shit, imo.

im finding that about the dtec
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Jon, You had an email about this from me as per our previous conversations. Please reply via PM or email vmm25@yahoo.com!
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Our flash will include its own programmer. The flash is $600. The 3-bar map sensor and tip mod is $100 if you are not using the Stage 2/3 sensors.

Nice, so for the cost of the Xcal2 alone, I get a programmer and 3 custom maps. Thats not bad at all. Will this programmer work on my car with maps created by other SCT tuners, in case I find a tuner locally?
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I sent them the $$ today - the banks were being such a fucking ass. I cant wait to get the sct.
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