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Old 03-02-2009, 07:14 AM   #1 (permalink)
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When a car is painted is it supposed to chip so easily? I was under the impression that the hardener that is mixed in with the clear or paint would prevent chips (unless hit multiple times). Any info would be great.



Also, I had a set of stock tails sprayed black.............tooooo dark lol what can I use to lighten them up a bit?








(for those who are probably going to ask, yes my paint is chipping right after I got it back from paint)
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Proper 2 part clear should be fairly resistant to chipping. I can't remember, was your paint job a body shop job, or a "buddy's garage" type deal? Clear coat is most susceptible to damage in the first couple of weeks. It takes a good week or so to fully cure. Ideally, the shop would hold on to your car for that period of time, but of course that's not economically feasible, not to mention the fact that body shop lots would be full of cars waiting to fully cure which would be a major inconvenience for them.

As far as the tails go, you'll probably have to sand them down and start from scratch. There's no really good way to cut through the tint evenly, so you're far better off just starting at zero. Start with some 220 grit to cut through the paint, then work your way up to a 300, and then finally a 400 or so before re-painting. Are they nightshaded, or something else?
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Proper 2 part clear should be fairly resistant to chipping. I can't remember, was your paint job a body shop job, or a "buddy's garage" type deal? Clear coat is most susceptible to damage in the first couple of weeks. It takes a good week or so to fully cure. Ideally, the shop would hold on to your car for that period of time, but of course that's not economically feasible, not to mention the fact that body shop lots would be full of cars waiting to fully cure which would be a major inconvenience for them.


Was in a body shop. He had the car for about a month. Yes he is really busy since he takes care of insurance cars. It isn't just the clear coat that is chipping, its the actual paint. I have chips EVERYWHERE and even some bubbling on the doors.

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As far as the tails go, you'll probably have to sand them down and start from scratch. There's no really good way to cut through the tint evenly, so you're far better off just starting at zero. Start with some 220 grit to cut through the paint, then work your way up to a 300, and then finally a 400 or so before re-painting. Are they nightshaded, or something else?

It's paint lol

I figured I was going to have to start from scratch crap lol

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Was in a body shop. He had the car for about a month. Yes he is really busy since he takes care of insurance cars. It isn't just the clear coat that is chipping, its the actual paint. I have chips EVERYWHERE and even some bubbling on the doors.



It's paint lol

I figured I was going to have to start from scratch crap lol

The paint/base coat will often chip along with the clear coat. Non-gel coat base coats aren't resistant to chipping at all. If you painted your car with just a base coat, it would get all chipped up in no time flat. The clear is really what protects the finish. If the clear chips, the base coat will come with it more often then not. Bubbling is usually a sign of shitty prep work/improper painting conditions (i.e. too cold, too hot, too humid, etc.). Personally, I would go raise hell. The other thing that I would do is try and find a body shop that takes on more customer paid jobs. Places that handle insurance claims run on a really tight schedule and are focused mainly on turnaround. It may take longer and cost a tad more, but a custom/Hot Rod-type shop will likely take the time to do the job right/better. Would you mind posting some pics of the affected areas? That may help to better diagnose the problem(s). I'm not an expert, but I have a fair amount of experience. Someone like Crystal (Lilsparkplug) may be of even more help.
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The paint/base coat will often chip along with the clear coat. Non-gel coat base coats aren't resistant to chipping at all. If you painted your car with just a base coat, it would get all chipped up in no time flat. The clear is really what protects the finish. If the clear chips, the base coat will come with it more often then not. Bubbling is usually a sign of shitty prep work/improper painting conditions (i.e. too cold, too hot, too humid, etc.). Personally, I would go raise hell. The other thing that I would do is try and find a body shop that takes on more customer paid jobs. Places that handle insurance claims run on a really tight schedule and are focused mainly on turnaround. It may take longer and cost a tad more, but a custom/Hot Rod-type shop will likely take the time to do tjob right/better. Would you mind posting some pics of the affected areas? That may help to better diagnose the problem(s). I'm not an expert, but I have a fair amount of experience. Someone like Crystal (Lilsparkplug) may be of even more help.

This guy did my friend '57 Chevy, my other friend '69 Barracuda and some other friends cars and they came out great. That was my main reason for going to him. I'll try to take pics but it's snowing so bad and by the time I get home from work my car is going to look like a giant snow pile haha.
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Well, if he's done quality work before and he wants to uphold his reputation, then he should be willing to correct the issues. Maybe save raising hell for when/if he refuses to fix the problems. Good luck. Keep us updated.
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Well, if he's done quality work before and he wants to uphold his reputation, then he should be willing to correct the issues. Maybe save raising hell for when/if he refuses to fix the problems. Good luck. Keep us updated.

That's what I am going to do. I am going there with the thought that he is an upstanding guy and will fix the issue. I will definitely keep it updated


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Oh snap dude. Don't tell me your brand new paint job is chipping????
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Oh snap dude. Don't tell me your brand new paint job is chipping????

yep and I'm pretty sure it's due to the mexicans at the place being lazy
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Damn lazy ass mexicans . But seriously, I'd be pissed!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Damn lazy ass mexicans . But seriously, I'd be pissed!!!!!!!!!!!!

oh trust me i am lol
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hard to say with out seeing it. But if its peeling already it would be shitty prep work. I do it for aliving and i know we bake all of our cars for a bit. So its ilke a fast dry for the paint and clear. So i would say if its bubbleing already take it back , they must have done the prep work and missed something.
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Talked to the guy today and he has no issues with me bringing it back Monday morning. Thank God for good people still in this world lol
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That was cool of him. But does that change your view on mexicans????????
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That was cool of him. But does that change your view on mexicans????????

hey mexicans are great workers when they arent trying to be lazy asses and cut corners
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