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Old 08-12-2006, 03:43 AM   #16 (permalink)
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He doesn't need HO to hold HOM, he held it last time we were at the track on the 98 that he was running. I think. I could of sworn that was what he said. No, no map clamp. I have been completely lazy this week when it came to the car. It is running well at 20 psi and only 2 degrees being pulled and it is lean enough not to need a mapclamp so I haven't done anything. I thought he had one already and just couldn't do anything with it since he didn't have a wideband. thats why I siaid he could borrow mine after track day. I can lower my boost after that and not worry about going too lean but I really don't want to take it out before track day.

oh and it looks clear and sunny up here Kris so hopefully it will be tomorrow too.
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I have a map clamp...just need a wideband. I turned on HOM, and light was on during the run but I am not so sure I held HOM during the whole run, I forgot what it was suppose to work since I cant ever use it. I am pretty sure it was not working because I dont have HO gas nor water injection so it probably did not work. I am thinking of buying this gauge what do you guys think? http://www.srtforums.com/forums/show...=280061&page=1

Scott I dont know where you live but the weather is crappy up here in newmarket and it has been raining all day!

P.S. I was running UK 99 octane...so probably about 93 ish real gas octane...either way it is still crap.
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Sorry man, at 0930 when I woke up and looked out the bedroom window it was pretty much clear and sunny. But is it raining and was just pouring a few mins ago when I was on my way home from the post office and getting gas for tomorrow (if we go).

As far as I know HOM stays on if the light is on. If it goes off or starts blinking it is not holding. Now it is hard to keep your eyes on it while driving but I think that if it was on you were probably holding. You don't need race gas or water injection to hold it sometimes. You can use a higher octane than the Lakenheath octane and hold "sometimes" it might be off and on depending on weather conditions too. With W/I though you would definatly be able to hold it.

As for the mapclamp if we don't go to the track tomorrow guys do you want to meet up at RAFM AHS? Russ we can take my wideband out and you can tune your car for a week with it and the mapclamp and then i will just get it back from you the next weekend.

As for the gauge, the aeroforce gauges are very nice but if you get that one you will still need to get a wideband because the aeroforce gauge will only measure narrowband O2 sensor signal in millivolts. The other gauge by techgauges that you started and I also posted in looks like it would be a better buy because you would be able to monitor IAT, Timing advance, Knock Retard, and wideband signal in normal terms like on the AEM UEGO (i.e. 14.7, 11.2, etc...) Ask Jon how the O2 sensor reading shows up on his current techgauge. It shows up in millivolts which isn't very easy to read and isn't as accurate as a wideband. Just my opinion. If you want to check out the aeroforce gauge though check with Aaron since he has that setup in his car. Don't get me wrong it is a nice gauge, but I think for alittle more you could get the whole shabang. Your choice though.

I do like however the 0-60, 1/4 mile times recorder and the CEL code display and clearing that the gauge displays. And the 50-60 second data recording option would be nice because you could do a nice run without have to stare that the gauges and then review the data afterwards. Plus the option to change the screen from Blue to black for daytime to night time driving would be nice too. So it would be a good purchase.

Let me know about tomorrow if we don't go to the track and want to get the wideband.

i will be up tomorrow around 6am to check the weather agian and see who is still going or not.

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If I remember correctly the light was flashing at me for HOM, hard to tell with my short term memory of a hamster. How long do you think it would take all together to swap the wideband from your car to mine?
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Well there is only one way to tell if you are holding HOM. Take it for a run on the highway. You will be able to tell the diffrence. If you are actually holding it, don't install the mapclamp. The reason is because with less fuel in the cylinders, the temps will rise alot. When the temps go up, you will start to retard timing. Once the computer sees that, it will kick you outta HOM. You will gain way more hp with HOM than you would with some fuel tuned back.
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The aeroforce gauge is a good one. Not for checking a/f ratios but really good for checking timing. It is cheaper than the Techgauges but had menus to scroll through and you can only see 2 parameters at a time.
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Jon would be able to tell you better how long it would take. Gota get up on a lift take the sensor out plug the hole, then pull the wiring out and the gauge, then reverse. Maybe 1 1/2 hours to do all of it. It is simple really to do just time consuming alittle bit.

Oh and if you are going to try the HOM option before the mapclamp make sure you put in a full tank of whatever gas you are going to use when you go to the track.

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45 min tops unless something goes wrong
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Quote: Originally Posted by SRT-4_UK
45 min tops unless something goes wrong

Ummm, look who's car you will be working on. LOL

Mine.
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Quote: Originally Posted by scottw03
Oh and if you are going to try the HOM option before the mapclamp make sure you put in a full tank of whatever gas you are going to use when you go to the track.

Why have a full tank of gas? That will just slow him down. I can almost gaurentee that he is not holding HOM. If he was, it would show in his times. Even though he has less mods than me or you, his trap speeds whould at least be alot higher. I am still lookin into those chemicals so that he actually can but until then, I really don't see him holding it without water/meth.
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45 min tops unless something goes wrong

Ummm, look who's car you will be working on. LOL

Mine.

That is a good point. There is always something that goes wrong. It is the stripes that are messing everything up. Or maybe all that extra weigh on the headlights. Should have gone with carbon fiber like mine lol. Yeah I already know what you are gonna say about those but they will match when I get home.
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LOL, actually I wasn't going to say anything about the eyelids. Just my times. read them and weep. LOL. Well, we all see how much our times have changed drastically with just the driver mod. And Russ has less time on the track than us. I am sure that I could get him down to a 14.0 if I drove it or if Kris drove it. Although, not sure with the new tires. they may have something to do with it too.
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You can have your times b/c at least I have youth LOL. I said that his trap speeds should be higher. Not his E.T.s be lower. I know the driver mod has alot to do with it but his traps would be lower with lower 60ft. With HOM on his trap speeds will be higher. Another thing I have been contemplating is that I dont think my driving skills are that bad. I cut better 60 ft times than Scott but I was still doin worse. Only thing that can be is either bad shifting or bad tune. I know it wasnt bad shifting b/c I was WOT shifting so I am still blaming that tune. The most important part of the race is off the line and I had that, now that I am tuned up, I will destroy your time. It will just take a while to get used to the car again.
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Well, if we get to go tomorrow I guess we will find out.

Actually it probably was your car before since you took so long to build pressure up in the beginning that you would lauch good but then bog before getting decent power.
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Quote: Originally Posted by scottw03
Well, if we get to go tomorrow I guess we will find out.

Actually it probably was your car before since you took so long to build pressure up in the beginning that you would lauch good but then bog before getting decent power.

I would agree that it was your car Jon. You do have some god 60' times but I think you have or had a bad tune. With there being more power or a better tune I hope you get better times. From the amount of money and parts you guys have put on your cars it could be anything holding you back.

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