So i ordered the 12000K's i want stop signs to look blue. *yeah im one of those* lol What do you guys think about the stock wiring? It says plug and play 12V its supposed to be safe. I know i wont have high/low beam anymore but ppl can deal. Also im lookin at the Retro projector headlights, anyone order the pre build ones off e-bay? Im not likin the top turn signal but they would get me the high/low beam back. Any input?
The 12000k aren't going to be blue. They'll be more purple than anything. For a smooth blue look you want 6000-8000. I had 8000 in mine and they were BLUE. Too blue for my liking. The first thing I noticed about them is that they didn't have as much direct forward light output. The stock housing isn't made for a HID kit so you have more residual light being reflected up and out instead of straight forward. Yes.... signs lit up much further away, but I felt like I lost lighting to the road.
As far as plug n play..... Yes they'll plug in. But they most likely won't work. The ballast in an HID kit requires a lot of power. Unfortunately the stock headlights don't. So you have to wire in some relays. I built my own relay harness from scratch and wired it in. Took me about an hour. I used to own a stereo shop before the military so I made it all pirdy like.
Now as far as retros.... Calling the ebay projectors retros is like saying an SRT Design is the same as an SRT4. Not even close. Retros refer to the transplant of another vehicles projector beams into your stock headlights..... or retrofitting. TSX (acura) projectors are very popular for this because of their simple design and availability. Now you are getting into a whole new world with this stuff talking retros. The ebay projectors are pretty much garbage from what I've seen and talking to people about them. If you talk to someone who is uniformed.... they give you misleading information. People say they like them, but if you look at the build quality, the light output and the general design.... They aren't worth the plastic they are made out of.
I just recently bought a set of retrofitted headlights from BoostJunkies here on the site. TSX projectors with a D2S HID kit from another vendor. Once they get here I'll post up some pictures of light output in comparison to an HID kit in a stock housing. Loads of difference.
HID Kits are cheap shit.
In Germany totally forbidden, cheap and ugly. The overallimpression is cheap, the light is bright but not good and okay - it looks like xenon - but you can see on first sight that it was the cheapest way to have xenon.
For real xenon you need HID lenses.
The kids may be a fast way to have a bright headlight - but it is not good for show.
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Modern Performance projectors are the same projectors as the ebay ones. They can claim they aren't all day long...... but look at the two. Exact same thing.
Modern Performance projectors are the same projectors as the ebay ones. They can claim they aren't all day long...... but look at the two. Exact same thing.
who says they are the same? they are the same things. lol
Damn i know im kinda mad now, i bought them before i did my color temp research and now im hopein its not going to be purple. I want blue. I heard our stock headlights are bad for the HID output that’s why im looking for projectors. The more i look at the modernperformance/e-bay ones the more im likening them. ill still do the eye lids to cover the nasty turn signal then ill use the leds on the front and our stock side marker for a turn signal. Plus there a lot cheaper than trying to get someone to make them for you here on the forums. I don’t think (but then i don’t know much about this stuff) i will have problems with them working as plug and play. the auction said they work with 12-16V input and out put 35W unlike the bulbs im running now are 55W so it should be less than i have now. I’m just not trying to burn up my Headlight wiring in the car or and switches.
You'll have to do some modifications. At least running a wire to the battery and one to ground per headlight.
Cheaper prices usually mean cheaper products. Just remember that. I paid $760 for my headlights. I'll have the same light output as an Acura once its said and done. I could have went with a little nicer and been the same as a BMW. You are going to be at about half of what I've paid (MPx projectors and HID's) so why not save up and get something that sets the car apart?
As far as covering the turn signals.... I'm sure that will fail you at inspection. Just be careful.
Shiby you got to listen to marakka on this one man. He knows what he is talking about. Stay away from the ebay kit. If you want a real retro fit then I say go for it but its gonna set you back at least 650!! thats the difference in the kits to the real deal there is no comparrison on that.
I fully agree on the you get what you pay for. I’m not doubting that. I don’t want to be cheep but its so damn hard when you see the same thing for that much less. For me its almost just worth the try. The kit is already ordered so ill try it out and see where i go from there. Like most though the more i look at the MPx projectors the more they grow on me. Hey i like the eyebrow look but i may just bite the bullet on this one and use the top turn signal. As for standing out, i see theses cars all over and i have yet to see anyone with projectors at all on this car in person. Im still scratching my head a bit
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Its the same but its not the same. The only thing the same about the MPx ones and a good set of retrofits is the word projector. The comparison ends there. In the MPx projectors the housing is made of plastic. In a retro the housing is made of metal. The reason being is that HIDs put out a lot of heat. When you get the MPx projectors it says on them not to use with HID kits because of this exact reason. The MPx headlight housing itself bubbles out on the front like a bug. Not that our cars don't resemble a bug to begin with, but this is even more. With a retro you maintain a stock look, but if someone notices they'll recognize right away that there's quality inside. The HID's you can't really do much with since you already paid for them. I can understand that.
I've got a set of ebay projectors in my Honda. I'm half tempted to tape Maglites to the front of the freakin car to get more light output. The cutoff is disguisting. Its insane how cheap you can tell they are JUST by the cutout profile. They don't fit right either and thats a big concern of mine. I've tried reinstalling them 2 times since I got the car with no luck. Yes they were cheaper than factory headlights, but at the cost of performing and looking like crap.
If you've ever driven a car with a true HID/projector setup you'll understand the difference. Calling MPx projectors and retros the same thing is like comparing a Jensen fold out screen to an Alpine fold out screen.
I fully agree on the you get what you pay for. I’m not doubting that. I don’t want to be cheep but its so damn hard when you see the same thing for that much less. For me its almost just worth the try. The kit is already ordered so ill try it out and see where i go from there. Like most though the more i look at the MPx projectors the more they grow on me. Hey i like the eyebrow look but i may just bite the bullet on this one and use the top turn signal. As for standing out, i see theses cars all over and i have yet to see anyone with projectors at all on this car in person. Im still scratching my head a bit
Look at my Avatar..I got the MPx ones..They've been working great for me..Only thing is..Once you get them aimed and set up correctly..Put silicon on the adjusters..They tend to move..
The reason they say don't use the stock wiring for the HID's is because of the power it takes to start up the ballast. The power runs through your multifunction switch in the steering column behind the steering wheel. They say that it can fry it and that is like a $500 replacement part or something like that.
Element Motorsports sells a harness that has relays on it that get the signal from your stock wiring but supplies power directly from the battery. I would say give that a try, it is only like $45. Well worth the cost. Otherwise fab one up yourself.
As for the headlights, I am not sure, a friend of mine just bought them and I am waiting to see them in person, and to see the light output by them before I decide to get them. I have HIDs in my stock lights now but will switch back to regular bulbs with the headlights if I get them.
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