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Old 05-27-2009, 01:31 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Question Big Turbo?

ok im toying with the idea and by toying with i mean pretty much deadset on moving to the ATP 57 trim or 3076. my only question is does anyone know what it takes to run PCM boost on such a turbo with the diablo or am i better off moving to off PCM boost? this decision sucks because i really like the diablo as a cost effective tuning method but im searching for low 11s high 10s like yesterday. i know a rebuild is in my near future tuning for these times. im tired of quick cars i want a fast one now. so my list goes
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intercooler and hardpipes with BOV
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ins and outs of both turbos for whoever knows them(pito&jason)
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Old 05-27-2009, 02:07 PM   #2 (permalink)
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ok im toying with the idea and by toying with i mean pretty much deadset on moving to the ATP 57 trim or 3076. my only question is does anyone know what it takes to run PCM boost on such a turbo with the diablo or am i better off moving to off PCM boost? this decision sucks because i really like the diablo as a cost effective tuning method but im searching for low 11s high 10s like yesterday. i know a rebuild is in my near future tuning for these times. im tired of quick cars i want a fast one now. so my list goes
ATP turbo kit
intercooler and hardpipes with BOV
returnline
650 injectors or is that under what i need?
3bar map and tip
diablo custom tune
walbro pump... almost forgot
boomba fuel rail
future:
70 mm throttle body
dcr intake mani
obviously a clutch

let me hear the bad and good
ins and outs of both turbos for whoever knows them(pito&jason)
thanks guys


Ok here is my opinion, GT30 or better knows as 3076r
750's (650 will be to small)
clutch needs to be included in the now group lol
you will NEED to build to get to high 10's safley but other then that not to bad what is your HP goal that is always better then a track time goal because to much is based on driving and track conditions
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500 is a good round number for me...im leaning towards the 30R already its just about 650 more expensive thats what hurts so ill have to piece together the rest over time. damn my instant gratification syndrome. hey buddy wanna help me do a clutch over a few beers? ill come to you. lol. i promise i wont sell mine after you help me.
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500 is a good round number for me...im leaning towards the 30R already its just about 650 more expensive thats what hurts so ill have to piece together the rest over time. damn my instant gratification syndrome. hey buddy wanna help me do a clutch over a few beers? ill come to you. lol. i promise i wont sell mine after you help me.

have to see, when are you talking about
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im gonna be gone for a month so if i get everything ordered prolly late july early august at the soonest...i guess a better question is when is better for you and that will give me a timeline to get the shit here.
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wow neal...I guess mid 13s wasn't good :-) it's all good.. If I can help in anyway let me know.
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500 on stock motor = bad just so you know, unless you are gonna build now then I would shot for around 450 to stay on the safe side
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You bring it down around that time frame and Jason & I will knock it out. I can't wait to wrench on something again.
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basically i want to build with room to grow. initially i will be cat happy with 400-450 and later push past the 500 mark.
but getting anywhere near 400 with the stock turbo is a nogo so i just want to move on and not spend money modding for the stocker.




james that last run where you ran mid 13 did you launch it or roll in to it?
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with that power level in mind i was thinking ACT 6 puck sprung clutch. what do yall think?
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basically i want to build with room to grow. initially i will be cat happy with 400-450 and later push past the 500 mark.
but getting anywhere near 400 with the stock turbo is a nogo so i just want to move on and not spend money modding for the stocker.




james that last run where you ran mid 13 did you launch it or roll in to it?

then what I said is still a really good setup, should give you a confident 400, then later build the motor, head, cams, meth and you should see 500
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500 horse on a daily driven fwd car is a not gonna be fun. Unlike all most 500 horse cars ours has the matching torque and that's not easy to maintain. I'd stick with between 400 and 450. A 3076R is the better choice but stay away from ATP. Mellomhead bought a o2 housing and its welds were real shitty. Stick with AGP. Plus you'll be able to piece together everything you need for a good price and fairly quick. Since our last meet I've found both 3bar sensors, DW 750cc injectors, JMB returnline, DSP with cables, and pump rewire kit for under 600 bucks. All I need is a fuel feedline and I'm set.

After I wear my 3071r out I'm going gt35 and about 550 with a full engine and tranny build. Gonna be a hand full but it won't be my daily driver.
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30R it is then... i really dont want to break into the motor out here id rather get back to the states and do it, but with guys like you and marraka out here i might as well. thanks in advance again for the advice and help
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Over buy if you have to until you can grow into it. I hate buying shit twice too.
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Pito... if you can get me the thread pitch of the ends you need on the fuel line I can get you one built
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