Stupid??? I think you have not idea of how it feels going that fast to say so....
Remember this... It's a Viper and he ain't gonna drive it like a grandma... and I would do the same.
And no, he was no racing nobody....
BTW if a Viper being a 10 cyl engine 100% stock.... Guess what would had happend to the SRT-4 to keep it up at that speed?
actually i do have an idea of going that fast...my buddy took me for a ride in his heavily modded Cobra and got it up that fast...twice...it's insane...
actually i do have an idea of going that fast...my buddy took me for a ride in his heavily modded Cobra and got it up that fast...twice...it's insane...
And did you tell your buddy he was stupid??? I really don't think so.
Anyhow, I've been on, as a copilot, on both cars (Cobra and Viper) at high sppeds and difference in suspension in both and the grip the Viper has, it's like day and night.
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We learned years ago that a Viper engine will not withstand high rpm runs for an extended period of time. It makes perfect sense given the cubic inches, length of the crankshaft, weight of the rotating mass and the lack of oiling, oil cooling and last but not least, component flex. Simply put, the engine wasn't really designed for that type of use. #3 is almost always the first to fail and luckily she didn't seize, break and exit the side of the block. One thing to note regarding the Gen 3 engine is that the connecting rod bearings are actually a bit narrow, something like .785 wide Vs your standard Gen 2 bearing which is .845 wide. I hope everything works out!
We learned years ago that a Viper engine will not withstand high rpm runs for an extended period of time. It makes perfect sense given the cubic inches, length of the crankshaft, weight of the rotating mass and the lack of oiling, oil cooling and last but not least, component flex. Simply put, the engine wasn't really designed for that type of use. #3 is almost always the first to fail and luckily she didn't seize, break and exit the side of the block. One thing to note regarding the Gen 3 engine is that the connecting rod bearings are actually a bit narrow, something like .785 wide Vs your standard Gen 2 bearing which is .845 wide. I hope everything works out!
Larry @ Macedo Motorsports
Thank You for your knowledge
The good news is that DC finally decided to gave him a new half engine, only heads will be reused from old engine
sounds like your friend needs to stop bitching... WAH WAH i modified my Viper and pushed it to its extreme limit cause im a rich boy and daddy i want it fixed now under warrenty! if u can afford to mod a viper let alone buy a viper you can afford to replace the damage you caused to it. i would shut my mouth on a internet chat board if i took my car 190mph after moding it and then wanted it warrentied.
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sounds like your friend needs to stop bitching... WAH WAH i modified my Viper and pushed it to its extreme limit cause im a rich boy and daddy i want it fixed now under warrenty! if u can afford to mod a viper let alone buy a viper you can afford to replace the damage you caused to it. i would shut my mouth on a internet chat board if i took my car 190mph after moding it and then wanted it warrentied.
Nah, the engine was stock. There was no reason for the engine to fail while doing things the car was designed to do.
The car was DESIGNED to be a street legal race car. Its not like hotlapping your moms minivan at the dragstrip... car was never designed to do that.
The Viper was.
Valid warranty issue to me.
Think about it this way.
I just paid 90 grand for a car with an ultra high performance car that is supposed to go 190mph, and be fast as fuck.
I took it that fast, and it broke. Obviously this is an issue.
You think some guy with a Ferrari who gets up to 180mph on the autobahn is going to be pissed if his engine did the same? You're damn right, because thats what the car was designed to do.
sounds like your friend needs to stop bitching... WAH WAH i modified my Viper and pushed it to its extreme limit cause im a rich boy and daddy i want it fixed now under warrenty! if u can afford to mod a viper let alone buy a viper you can afford to replace the damage you caused to it. i would shut my mouth on a internet chat board if i took my car 190mph after moding it and then wanted it warrentied.
We learned years ago that a Viper engine will not withstand high rpm runs for an extended period of time. It makes perfect sense given the cubic inches, length of the crankshaft, weight of the rotating mass and the lack of oiling, oil cooling and last but not least, component flex. Simply put, the engine wasn't really designed for that type of use. #3 is almost always the first to fail and luckily she didn't seize, break and exit the side of the block. One thing to note regarding the Gen 3 engine is that the connecting rod bearings are actually a bit narrow, something like .785 wide Vs your standard Gen 2 bearing which is .845 wide. I hope everything works out!
Larry @ Macedo Motorsports
Ilmor Marine sells marine engines for high performance boats. They sell 2 versions of the 8.3 Viper engine for use in boats. One is rated at 550hp and the other is rated at 625hp. They're basically the same engines used in Viper cars but since they don’t have to deal with the EPA, Ilmor can tune them for more power. I would have to think that if the 8.3 Viper was not suited for high rpm, then Ilmor Marine would have dropped their Viper program long ago.
Boat engines are run at or near their redline 100% of the time and unlike a car, a boat is under constant load. Afterall, a boat has no transmission at it has to push against water 100% of the time. A car just has to roll over pavement. I’ve been pretty involved in boating circles and have not heard of any wide spread issues with Ilmor Marine’s version of the 8.3 Viper engine.
A typical big block marine engine used in a performance boat is generally good for about 500 hours. Almost all of those 500 hours is at or near WOT. Converted into miles, that 500 hours works out to about 25000 miles.
Hey wolf - your friend needs to look into Sean Roe’s VEC-2 engine controller. That unit is a win-win item. On a bone-stock SRT-10 engine using one of Roe’s “canned” programs, that unit has shown gains up to 30hp. The VEC-2 uses “smart-cards” to program it and is pretty slick. Like I said, Roe sells “canned” programs based on what mods you have or you can have a skilled Viper tuner make the program changes on the fly with a dyno. The good thing is that you’ll never outgrow it. The VEC-2 will benefit you whether you engine is bone stock, whether you plan on going with bolt-ons, or even if you plan on going FE.
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Hey wolf - your friend needs to look into Sean Roe’s VEC-2 engine controller. That unit is a win-win item. On a bone-stock SRT-10 engine using one of Roe’s “canned” programs, that unit has shown gains up to 30hp. The VEC-2 uses “smart-cards” to program it and is pretty slick. Like I said, Roe sells “canned” programs based on what mods you have or you can have a skilled Viper tuner make the program changes on the fly with a dyno. The good thing is that you’ll never outgrow it. The VEC-2 will benefit you whether you engine is bone stock, whether you plan on going with bolt-ons, or even if you plan on going FE.
Where can he buy it? Do you know of any website or part number? Thank You.
I think I have to call BS on the speeds. With a 3.73 differential the speeds would be 170 mph in 5th gear at 6100 rpm or 4620 rpm at 190 mph in 6th (and no way does the engine have enough power at 4620 rpm to do 190 mph (at 4600 rpm the power is about 410 RWHP).
With the stock 3.07 ratio 190 mph occurs in 5th at just over 5600 rpm, which is just about at peak power of 450 RWHP
Could be he pulled you leg about th espeeds. A passenger would never know the difference between 170 and 190.
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