does anyone out there have any info on the hemi dakota? does it look like 05 late ,or 06 before we see the mighty hemi come alive in the dakota?
The Hemi does not package in the 05 Dakota. It was never slated to be in the powertrain lineup. However, keep an eye out for things to come with the 4.7L engine.
The Hemi does not package in the 05 Dakota. It was never slated to be in the powertrain lineup. However, keep an eye out for things to come with the 4.7L engine.
we tossed the idea around that d/c might come out with the hemi dak this year, but it didnt, as we all know, but 06 might ,as rumored,come out as an aluminum block hemi, to compliment the dakota, as the current hemi is too much engine for the mid sized dakota.......the h.o. 4.7 will get juiced for 300+ h.p for latter this year, making it a real fire breather.......this is to keep customers with the aspect of getting a muscle truck ,instead of a plain jane pickup truck.
we tossed the idea around that d/c might come out with the hemi dak this year, but it didnt, as we all know, but 06 might ,as rumored,come out as an aluminum block hemi, to compliment the dakota, as the current hemi is too much engine for the mid sized dakota.......the h.o. 4.7 will get juiced for 300+ h.p for latter this year, making it a real fire breather.......this is to keep customers with the aspect of getting a muscle truck ,instead of a plain jane pickup truck.
I work at DCX on the truck plateform. If there is a alumimum block hemi rumored, it's not in the Dakota.
Personally, I don't think the Hemi is too much for the Dakota. It simply comes down to packageing. It simply doesn't.
I've driven the 4.7L HO manual and it's pretty impressive.
I work at DCX on the truck plateform. If there is a alumimum block hemi rumored, it's not in the Dakota.
Personally, I don't think the Hemi is too much for the Dakota. It simply comes down to packageing. It simply doesn't.
I've driven the 4.7L HO manual and it's pretty impressive.
gotcha email.......yeah the dealers dont have any info on the r/t yet either! in fact no brouchures on the 05 dakota yet either, we wont hear anything about ANY hemi for a dakota till late 06 or 07, its still in drafting mode... as far as a dakota not suited for a hemi ...it has been done ,ask hemidakota in these pages, he has a 710 h.p. crate hemi stuffed into his dakota.that is a monster waiting to burn him.......is it safe?...well driven with prudence, yes, but some guys out there would have that beast wrapped around most anything ,quick.
gotcha email.......yeah the dealers dont have any info on the r/t yet either! in fact no brouchures on the 05 dakota yet either, we wont hear anything about ANY hemi for a dakota till late 06 or 07, its still in drafting mode... as far as a dakota not suited for a hemi ...it has been done ,ask hemidakota in these pages, he has a 710 h.p. crate hemi stuffed into his dakota.that is a monster waiting to burn him.......is it safe?...well driven with prudence, yes, but some guys out there would have that beast wrapped around most anything ,quick.
I realize there are people that have done swaps into the previous gen Dakotas. However, the 2005 Dakota shares little with the previous generation. There are more issues with a Hemi transplant than motor/trans mounts. To what extent, I can't disclose. Simply put, it doesn't package.
If at some point PVO decides to pursue a Hemi transplant, major modification will be needed. It's different than the Ram, where up to 2003, the V10 was already packaged. So, you know it was possible to throw the Viper engine in there. The Dakota is another story.
The frame remains the same as previous generation. The difference is the updated technology of using hydro-form and some suspension tweaking. Durnago moved to a new frame.
The mounts on this gen can easily adapt to the latest Hemi 5.7 as well as the previous 4.7 set and the 3.7. Current future is now blique, thanks to the greeding oil companies. Like I said in the past, it will not pay if the oil companies pull there stunts of greed for any performance.
The Dakota R/T or SRT-8 should set it self above the rest of the mid size players. By using the 4.7 HO powertrain will not be enough. The powertrain can be adapted for the Dakota but unlikely seeing the growing trend of greed here.
I work at DCX on the truck plateform. If there is a alumimum block hemi rumored, it's not in the Dakota.
Personally, I don't think the Hemi is too much for the Dakota. It simply comes down to packageing. It simply doesn't.
I've driven the 4.7L HO manual and it's pretty impressive.
Packaging is correct. Unless they know they can sell these packages and as well have enough drivetrains to meet the demand, they can do it.
The drawback is where do you draw the line of using the hemi 5.7 on which platforms. Another down side is that the Hemi 5.7 manufacturing is already running at max capacity.
With rumors, those are being generated at AllPar as well within the PVO side for a midsize contender for SRT.
4.7 is not that much impressive as the work we did back in 2000. I had spoken to the engineer on the engine design side and he pretty much told us the difference between both engines.
If Toyota can release a Turd Supercharger to boost the truck over 300 HP, then we can say goodby to all the hype of the R/T.
Sure...there is room for engine improvement as to performance, but DCx will not budge on the numbers since there are other engines coming soon.
The frame remains the same as previous generation. The difference is the updated technology of using hydro-form and some suspension tweaking. Durnago moved to a new frame.
NO. The frame is NOT the same as the previous generation. That's like saying the the "NEW F150" has the same frame as previous production.
Quote: Originally Posted by hemidakota
The mounts on this gen can easily adapt to the latest Hemi 5.7 as well as the previous 4.7 set and the 3.7.
Easier said than done.
Quote: Originally Posted by hemidakota
The Dakota R/T or SRT-8 should set it self above the rest of the mid size players. By using the 4.7 HO powertrain will not be enough. The powertrain can be adapted for the Dakota but unlikely seeing the growing trend of greed here.
I'll venture to say you'd see a supercharged 4.7L before you'll see a Hemi packaged in the Dakota.
Packaging is correct. Unless they know they can sell these packages and as well have enough drivetrains to meet the demand, they can do it.
The drawback is where do you draw the line of using the hemi 5.7 on which platforms. Another down side is that the Hemi 5.7 manufacturing is already running at max capacity.
I am a release engineer. When I speak of packaging, it's not in the sense of what the public will get in a "R/T package" I'm talking fit and function. The 5.7L doesn't package without extensive redesign.
Quote: Originally Posted by hemidakota
With rumors, those are being generated at AllPar as well within the PVO side for a midsize contender for SRT.
Yes, they are purely rumors.
Quote: Originally Posted by hemidakota
If Toyota can release a Turd Supercharger to boost the truck over 300 HP, then we can say goodby to all the hype of the R/T.
Sure...there is room for engine improvement as to performance, but DCx will not budge on the numbers since there are other engines coming soon.
It wouldn't matter if you packaged the Viper engine in there, that still wouldn't be enough for some. The powertrain lineup is more than enough for the market they are targeting. And the 4.7L HO is a step ahead the rest in the segment they are in.
No doubt on packaging. If SRT has the truck, it will be fitted properly and not just a drop in as with the rolling chassis of the 1500 model SRT-10 Ram.
I will dig up some info on the frame though.
If the 4.7 HO is based on the old nubmers, sorry but the engine is already outdated and lacking. You are now comparing the likes of the next Frontier and the next Tacoma Sport Truck.
Well, do or don't believe what you want. I've driven one at the proving grounds in Chelsea, MI.
Even the press kit says there's no manual in the H.O.. So....either it was a one of just for kicks or hell, maybe they'll surprise us. I know alot of guys who want that setup.
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