My Mole' bws review - SRT Forums

TylerM · 06-19-2012, 02:45 PM

First off, I wanted to post this where it couldn't get deleated, and everyone could see (for those interested in the bws.) If this is the wrong section please do so in moving it.

Okay, Now I ordered a bws by mole' last winter. I had to wait well over the "turn around" time. I think I waited 3/4 months about. I also know many guys are having the same issue not getting thiers in, in the said time frame. I even sent in my core first. But MY core had a broken banjo bolt which put me out a week, I bought a stock turbo from another member, even two day shipped it to mole (mention money was tight and was trying to stay on a budget) Mole said he never got the turbo, tracking said different. Said it was left at his door.

Well months later. I get my bws, I loved it. Installed, followed mole's break in procdure etc. I even bought new drain gasket, banjo bolts, and washers from my dealer. After braking it in I boosted 28psi on it, it was FUN. The car was amazing I loved the car I thought i was getting sick of. 4,000 miles later, the turbo gets in and out play. I was pissed, I assumed it was from too much boost. Well I end up shipping it to mole. And he said both bearings are shot, didnt say from too much boost. Said it was from surge probably from my BOV. Well im on stock surge valve. So as I let my dd sit I checked the surge valve diaphram for rips or and small tears. Nothing. So I dont know what could have caused it. Being very pissed and disappointed my turbo wouldnt have been warrantied I told him to ship it back, he offers to buy it from me. Than gave me $200 for it. Than talking to other member I am told I got screwed over, I get the money after I ask to paypal as a gift or pay for fees. I only get $190.

So in the end. Im not trying to say mole is a bad guy, because WHEN I could get a hold of him he was cool and stright up. But like I said when I could. But im a human and understand people get busy and such. I hope this helps anyone who is thinking about a BWS. It was fun.. while it lasted. which was only 4000 miles. I am not posting to start a fight or offend. Just wanted to post my bad experance and how frustrated I am over this and after finding all that out from other members and such I got screwed.

If anyone has anything to say please fill free to post, or pm me like other members have. I am not the only one that has had a bad experance, not going to say any names if they want they can post.

in the end if I could do it again, I would have went stage 3 or bigger.

**Monster** · 06-19-2012, 03:03 PM

Yikes that sounds like a shitty experience.

NeOnDrAgOn · 06-19-2012, 03:10 PM

That old saying if it is to good to be true...

i<3boostedwhips · 06-19-2012, 03:19 PM

Wow that sucks man... GL

fmgar91 · 06-19-2012, 03:20 PM

I wanted to to get bws from mole but there's no point if there not gonna last

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chicagoskittle · 06-19-2012, 03:29 PM

Thanx for letting us know. Good thing I waited.
But he will talk his way out like always and delete what its called the truth.

Good luck buddy

NeOnDrAgOn · 06-19-2012, 03:35 PM

^^Truth is what you make of it. Some people read something and take it for the truth. This is what happened to him. But I think we have heard this before. I think it BS you can have stuff delete because it is not favorable. I remember 03Red post something about mole and had the post deleted. It was not bashing just sharing what happened to him and was deleted. That site has always had snake-oil sales man on it. As far back as I have read. /rant.

SilverBulletSRT-4 · 06-19-2012, 03:35 PM

BOOM!

That was another BWS truth bomb going off.

strokedracer05 · 06-19-2012, 03:42 PM

Seems like the mole bws are only a few good ones put out im not here to bash but thats what im seeing o well

Masat03 · 06-19-2012, 03:43 PM

sucks bro, id say i told ya so, but you have already been kicked in the nuts enough. Best of luck in the future.

I tried to post a link to a stock rebuild kit in the bws thread, but guess what, post deleted. Mole now rebuilds your turbo for $50 dollars after buying it back for 200, then the next guy gets hit for top dollar again, shady business, just like his entire "advertising" scheme.

NeOnDrAgOn · 06-19-2012, 03:44 PM

ha, but even my MAP S3, i was told limit is about 30psi, if the fuel is there. So a BWS boosted to 28psi sounds high?

rw44 · 06-19-2012, 03:46 PM

People have been saying this for a long time now and getting banned/deleted/blocked/ran off.
Its bs. Theres no excuse talking out of this, even if its not a scam, its horrible service.

**Monster** · 06-19-2012, 03:46 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by NeOnDrAgOn

ha, but even my MAP S3, i was told limit is about 30psi, if the fuel is there. So a BWS boosted to 28psi sounds high?

Map bws3 turbo's are vsr balanced and use different internals and cost 2x as much. You are comparing apples to oranges man.

NeOnDrAgOn · 06-19-2012, 03:48 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by Monster

Map bws3 turbo's are vsr balanced and use different internals and cost 2x as much. You are comparing apples to oranges man.

I know, hence my point. 28psi sounds high for moles BWS. That is why I spent the money and waited 6 months for my turbo. Not that i wanted to wait, but I did.

Masat03 · 06-19-2012, 03:48 PM

Quote: Originally Posted by rw44

People have been saying this for a long time now and getting banned/deleted/blocked/ran off.
Its bs. Theres no excuse talking out of this, even if its not a scam, its horrible service.

lol

06-19-2012, 02:45 PM	#1 (permalink)
TylerM SRTforums Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Member Number: 85528 Location: MN Posts: 467	My Mole' bws review First off, I wanted to post this where it couldn't get deleated, and everyone could see (for those interested in the bws.) If this is the wrong section please do so in moving it. Okay, Now I ordered a bws by mole' last winter. I had to wait well over the "turn around" time. I think I waited 3/4 months about. I also know many guys are having the same issue not getting thiers in, in the said time frame. I even sent in my core first. But MY core had a broken banjo bolt which put me out a week, I bought a stock turbo from another member, even two day shipped it to mole (mention money was tight and was trying to stay on a budget) Mole said he never got the turbo, tracking said different. Said it was left at his door. Well months later. I get my bws, I loved it. Installed, followed mole's break in procdure etc. I even bought new drain gasket, banjo bolts, and washers from my dealer. After braking it in I boosted 28psi on it, it was FUN. The car was amazing I loved the car I thought i was getting sick of. 4,000 miles later, the turbo gets in and out play. I was pissed, I assumed it was from too much boost. Well I end up shipping it to mole. And he said both bearings are shot, didnt say from too much boost. Said it was from surge probably from my BOV. Well im on stock surge valve. So as I let my dd sit I checked the surge valve diaphram for rips or and small tears. Nothing. So I dont know what could have caused it. Being very pissed and disappointed my turbo wouldnt have been warrantied I told him to ship it back, he offers to buy it from me. Than gave me $200 for it. Than talking to other member I am told I got screwed over, I get the money after I ask to paypal as a gift or pay for fees. I only get $190. So in the end. Im not trying to say mole is a bad guy, because WHEN I could get a hold of him he was cool and stright up. But like I said when I could. But im a human and understand people get busy and such. I hope this helps anyone who is thinking about a BWS. It was fun.. while it lasted. which was only 4000 miles. I am not posting to start a fight or offend. Just wanted to post my bad experance and how frustrated I am over this and after finding all that out from other members and such I got screwed. If anyone has anything to say please fill free to post, or pm me like other members have. I am not the only one that has had a bad experance, not going to say any names if they want they can post. in the end if I could do it again, I would have went stage 3 or bigger. __________________ 2005 Silver - Sold 2006 Evo IX GSR SSL SRT 4 Kills-3 SRT 4 Wins-1

06-19-2012, 03:03 PM	#2 (permalink)
Monster Premium Member (Lifetime) Join Date: Dec 2006 Member Number: 48761 Location: Inland Empire Posts: 11,498	Yikes that sounds like a shitty experience. __________________ Quote: Originally Posted by Turbolag87 ur all idiots and noobs. Stop giving out retarded information

06-19-2012, 03:10 PM	#3 (permalink)
NeOnDrAgOn SRTforums Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Member Number: 80191 Location: King George, VA Posts: 870	That old saying if it is to good to be true... __________________ 05 Black,Full 3inch exhaust, BWS3 47#,Ported and polished, Duster360's injectors and tune Realtune LCA's Bushing= Best mod since the DSP. Quote: Originally Posted by never2muchboost hadoukens will be shat

06-19-2012, 03:29 PM	#6 (permalink)
chicagoskittle SRTforums Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Member Number: 82263 Location: chicago Posts: 1,363	Thanx for letting us know. Good thing I waited. But he will talk his way out like always and delete what its called the truth. Good luck buddy __________________ Tuned by Brian (Mindmelt101)

06-19-2012, 03:35 PM	#7 (permalink)
NeOnDrAgOn SRTforums Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Member Number: 80191 Location: King George, VA Posts: 870	^^Truth is what you make of it. Some people read something and take it for the truth. This is what happened to him. But I think we have heard this before. I think it BS you can have stuff delete because it is not favorable. I remember 03Red post something about mole and had the post deleted. It was not bashing just sharing what happened to him and was deleted. That site has always had snake-oil sales man on it. As far back as I have read. /rant. __________________ 05 Black,Full 3inch exhaust, BWS3 47#,Ported and polished, Duster360's injectors and tune Realtune LCA's Bushing= Best mod since the DSP. Quote: Originally Posted by never2muchboost hadoukens will be shat

06-19-2012, 03:19 PM	#4 (permalink)
i<3boostedwhips SRTforums Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Member Number: 86563 Location: Simi Valley Posts: 186	Wow that sucks man... GL

06-19-2012, 03:20 PM	#5 (permalink)
fmgar91 SRTforums Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Member Number: 86705 Location: Escondido Posts: 91	I wanted to to get bws from mole but there's no point if there not gonna last T-Mobile G2 using AutoGuide.C

06-19-2012, 03:35 PM	#8 (permalink)
SilverBulletSRT-4 SRTforums Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Member Number: 43861 Location: Yucaipa Posts: 114	BOOM! That was another BWS truth bomb going off.

06-19-2012, 03:42 PM	#9 (permalink)
strokedracer05 SRTforums Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Member Number: 77818 Location: Belpre Ohio Posts: 4,896	Seems like the mole bws are only a few good ones put out im not here to bash but thats what im seeing o well __________________ new setup for 2012:Bob at form and functions new stage 3 wheel stock motor from oil pan to valve cover shooting for 10s with lots of timing and boost on racegas!!!

06-19-2012, 03:43 PM	#10 (permalink)
Masat03 SRTforums Member Join Date: May 2007 Member Number: 54011 Location: Aurora IL Posts: 1,424	sucks bro, id say i told ya so, but you have already been kicked in the nuts enough. Best of luck in the future. I tried to post a link to a stock rebuild kit in the bws thread, but guess what, post deleted. Mole now rebuilds your turbo for $50 dollars after buying it back for 200, then the next guy gets hit for top dollar again, shady business, just like his entire "advertising" scheme. __________________ Private 03-06-2012 09:09 AM Never 1 Rules Violation NorthNJSRT4 Last edited by Masat03; 06-19-2012 at 03:46 PM.

06-19-2012, 03:44 PM	#11 (permalink)
NeOnDrAgOn SRTforums Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Member Number: 80191 Location: King George, VA Posts: 870	ha, but even my MAP S3, i was told limit is about 30psi, if the fuel is there. So a BWS boosted to 28psi sounds high? __________________ 05 Black,Full 3inch exhaust, BWS3 47#,Ported and polished, Duster360's injectors and tune Realtune LCA's Bushing= Best mod since the DSP. Quote: Originally Posted by never2muchboost hadoukens will be shat

06-19-2012, 03:46 PM	#12 (permalink)
rw44 SRTforums Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Member Number: 60400 Location: turlock, ca Posts: 748	People have been saying this for a long time now and getting banned/deleted/blocked/ran off. Its bs. Theres no excuse talking out of this, even if its not a scam, its horrible service.

06-19-2012, 03:46 PM	#13 (permalink)
Monster Premium Member (Lifetime) Join Date: Dec 2006 Member Number: 48761 Location: Inland Empire Posts: 11,498	Quote: Originally Posted by NeOnDrAgOn ha, but even my MAP S3, i was told limit is about 30psi, if the fuel is there. So a BWS boosted to 28psi sounds high? Map bws3 turbo's are vsr balanced and use different internals and cost 2x as much. You are comparing apples to oranges man. __________________ Quote: Originally Posted by Turbolag87 ur all idiots and noobs. Stop giving out retarded information

06-19-2012, 03:48 PM	#14 (permalink)
NeOnDrAgOn SRTforums Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Member Number: 80191 Location: King George, VA Posts: 870	Quote: Originally Posted by Monster Map bws3 turbo's are vsr balanced and use different internals and cost 2x as much. You are comparing apples to oranges man. I know, hence my point. 28psi sounds high for moles BWS. That is why I spent the money and waited 6 months for my turbo. Not that i wanted to wait, but I did. __________________ 05 Black,Full 3inch exhaust, BWS3 47#,Ported and polished, Duster360's injectors and tune Realtune LCA's Bushing= Best mod since the DSP. Quote: Originally Posted by never2muchboost hadoukens will be shat Last edited by NeOnDrAgOn; 06-19-2012 at 03:50 PM.

06-19-2012, 03:48 PM	#15 (permalink)
Masat03 SRTforums Member Join Date: May 2007 Member Number: 54011 Location: Aurora IL Posts: 1,424	Quote: Originally Posted by rw44 People have been saying this for a long time now and getting banned/deleted/blocked/ran off. Its bs. Theres no excuse talking out of this, even if its not a scam, its horrible service. lol __________________ Private 03-06-2012 09:09 AM Never 1 Rules Violation NorthNJSRT4

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