they are forged but not billet like crane i beleave
Ding, winner. I don't know where the "forged" came from but they are not billet and they are still casted parts. Just because they are "forgeded" doesn't mean that they are not casted.
Wait what? How does that work? How can you forged a piece of steel and it be the same as a casting? I know you forged a piece and from there machine what you need to be a machined, but I don't see how you forge a piece of steel yet melt it and put it in a mold.
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are you kidding me? a speed shop owner cant tell the difference from forged or cast, if the entire part is machined then no, but there are untocouched parts of the cam where you can see the parting line.
hairline part=cast
thick part=forged
need pics?
I can show you 2 different rods side by side in a pictures are your telling me that you can tell the difference between a casted part and a forged part? I have to see this.
Not all forgings are the same, some rods for example have a very thin cast line but are forged rods. Some thick casted parts have been pressure casted but not forged.
I don't think I am the one that cannot tell the differences, but you seem to be the one showing me up tonight, LOL. I guess you get a cookie.
With that said, today's technology you cannot just look at a part and tell if its been casted or forged, the casting processes (pressure casting) have come very far in making better parts. Maybe you should take a step back before you end up looking to much like a fool, or better yet maybe I should quit looking like an idiot.... since I am arguing with one.
Ding, winner. I don't know where the "forged" came from but they are not billet and they are still casted parts. Just because they are "forgeded" doesn't mean that they are not casted.
casted and forged are TWO different methods. Forged is when the metal is molten and just pliable, then the two halves of the mold come together and form the part.
CAST is when the 2 molds are already together and a LIQUID is poured into the mold.
I can show you 2 different rods side by side in a pictures are your telling me that you can tell the difference between a casted part and a forged part? I have to see this.
Not all forgings are the same, some rods for example have a very thin cast line but are forged rods. Some thick casted parts have been pressure casted but not forged.
I don't think I am the one that cannot tell the differences, but you seem to be the one showing me up tonight, LOL. I guess you get a cookie.
With that said, today's technology you cannot just look at a part and tell if its been casted or forged, the casting processes (pressure casting) have come very far in making better parts. Maybe you should take a step back before you end up looking to much like a fool, or better yet maybe I should quit looking like an idiot.... since I am arguing with one.
yes you can, try me. and im sorry if im teaching you a thing or 2 tonight
Wait what? How does that work? How can you forged a piece of steel and it be the same as a casting? I know you forged a piece and from there machine what you need to be a machined, but I don't see how you forge a piece of steel yet melt it and put it in a mold.
Forging if the process of making the part. You have several pressure castings on the market that are advertised as "forged material". The pressure castings are getting huge right now since they are just as strong.
Forged parts like cranks are casted then forged in a furnace. Then they finish machine the parts. Forged parts are a process, you still have to cast them or a better way to state it is you have to make the basic out line of the part then forge them. Does this make sence?
casted and forged are TWO different methods. Forged is when the metal is molten and just pliable, then the two halves of the mold come together and form the part.
CAST is when the 2 molds are already together and a LIQUID is poured into the mold.
see? totally different
There still casted hence the "mold" part of your post. Forged is a process, thats all. You still have to cast the parts, in order to forge them.
Last time, pressure casting or is the way most MFG are doing it these days. You cannot tell the difference between the casted parts or the forged units. They are that good with pressure casting now.
How the hell did we get onto "forged" anyways. I asked if there were billet parts or casted parts. They are forged, great... the have the surface finish of a casted part... should have been billet, thats all I was getting at.
There still casted hence the "mold" part of your post. Forged is a process, thats all. You still have to cast the parts, in order to forge them.
Last time, pressure casting or is the way most MFG are doing it these days. You cannot tell the difference between the casted parts or the forged units. They are that good with pressure casting now.
yes you can, try me. and im sorry if im teaching you a thing or 2 tonight
I am only getting taught how to be a retard right now, I don't even no why I try to explain things to persons of your nature. You have to be right and no matter what I say its going to be that way.
Your right, I am wrong. I don't want to be one of the two retards that start a fight over a casted/forged part. Simple fact, they are not built on a CNC machine, they are casted/forged then the finish grind gets done to the blank. I would rather have a billet part, but thats just me.
See my understanding is forging is just a solid piece of steel that is cherry cherry red. Molten metal as said above, then HUGE press just smashes and smashes this piece till it is "forged" into the desired piece of steel. I saw forging on how it was made, Mackin Industries was forging volks, advans, and gramlights. They took to pieces of steel and forged each piece to the front side and back side of the wheel. From there they just pressed the two piece together to mack one piece. Then took a machine and machined the surface to spec.
does this sound like forging to you? I didn't see anything about casting during the video at the time.
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