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Old 02-01-2009, 05:22 PM   #61 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by 91PumpKing. View Post



this guy has 1 fuck up...

bc3's...bc's period are SUCH a popular cam amongst the import/domestic scene.

i have never, ever heard any issue about bc cams since the day i joined here in 04.

the last of your worries on a motorbuild is gunna lie on whether or not your cam will out of the blue break your valvetrain...
and if you have big cams, make sure you have the correct valvetrain for such...

Wow you need to get on some other sites then. BC has been known for getting there crap from overseas and just run off the back of the Crower name. Its well known that there are several failures out there for several different brand names. There are 3 or 4 cam failures that have been talked about here on the forums and they were running the BC product. I have no idea what happened with the cams or if it was improper install but, you can talk a lot of talk about them because you have not had a problem with them. Till you do, talk possitive about them and keep the harrassing remarks saved for me. Thanks.
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Old 02-01-2009, 05:35 PM   #62 (permalink)
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im not sure how they would get there stuff from overseas if they have a machine shop here making their cams and such
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Wow you need to get on some other sites then. BC has been known for getting there crap from overseas and just run off the back of the Crower name. Its well known that there are several failures out there for several different brand names. There are 3 or 4 cam failures that have been talked about here on the forums and they were running the BC product. I have no idea what happened with the cams or if it was improper install but, you can talk a lot of talk about them because you have not had a problem with them. Till you do, talk possitive about them and keep the harrassing remarks saved for me. Thanks.

I notice that you only start bashing parts as soon as you release a new product, when you first released your methanol system, you bashed devilsown and coolingmist for their pumps and nozzles, and now that you are coming out with a cam, bc sucks? I loled
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I notice that you only start bashing parts as soon as you release a new product, when you first released your methanol system, you bashed devilsown and coolingmist for their pumps and nozzles, and now that you are coming out with a cam, bc sucks? I loled

Show me where I bashed DO or CM on there systems? Next, we only addressed the nozzle location, nothing to do with there systems and I have had a few confirm my results with the nozzle locations. So how is that bashing again?

Next, BC issues were long before I even started to do the cams, so nice try to pin that one on me, but since you must... why don't you look around on a few sites, or better yet google BC quality, or BC failures. You will be surprised how many show up in there.

Last, see if I am wrong in my statements? I did the leg work to find out that BC has nothing to do with Crower, they are both brothers but thats about all they are. BC gets a majority of there product from overseas, Crower does some if not most in-house. I did my homework, how about you do some other then making yourself look like you just loled and while getting owned. Research before you make blanket statement and you might be suprised by what you find.

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im not sure how they would get there stuff from overseas if they have a machine shop here making their cams and such

That would be Crower, not BC components. Different company's, not one in the same.
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Brian Crower, Inc. employs state-of-the-art CNC grinding machines to insure exacting tolerances. Small diameter camshaft grinding wheels on certain BC cam part numbers like Honda B and K Series, Nissan SR20 and Mitsubishi 4G63 deliver added valve action for greater cylinder fill rates. All BC crankshafts and connecting rods are made from the highest quality 4340 steel alloy, CNC machined and finished to the tightest industry specifications. Premium grade 6AL4V titanium retainers, 100% RC checked for hardness, and super clean chrome silicone spring wire for the highest rpm range possible. Every product line is tested on precision measuring instruments for accuracy, imperfections and metallurgy. Dyno tested and tuned for optimum results.

im just trying to figure out if thats true or not this is on thir website did they lie?
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Brian Crower, Inc. employs state-of-the-art CNC grinding machines to insure exacting tolerances. Small diameter camshaft grinding wheels on certain BC cam part numbers like Honda B and K Series, Nissan SR20 and Mitsubishi 4G63 deliver added valve action for greater cylinder fill rates. All BC crankshafts and connecting rods are made from the highest quality 4340 steel alloy, CNC machined and finished to the tightest industry specifications. Premium grade 6AL4V titanium retainers, 100% RC checked for hardness, and super clean chrome silicone spring wire for the highest rpm range possible. Every product line is tested on precision measuring instruments for accuracy, imperfections and metallurgy. Dyno tested and tuned for optimum results.

im just trying to figure out if thats true or not this is on thir website did they lie?

That would be Crower, but I will let you guys check around on this. I was told this by a very reliable source that BC and Crower are not one in the same. Now I know that they have access to the same equipment because when there dad passed they both got the rights to the company and the equipment. If you think about it, Crower would offer the same parts as BC if that were the case, I mean why break up the company? If you think about it, why are all Crower cams billet but BC cams are mostly cast? These are just somethings I have been told by those in the know, they could have missleaded me but I would have to say that is not the case till someone can prove otherwise.

Just FYI for those that are willing to listen.
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Brian Crower, Inc. employs state-of-the-art CNC grinding machines to insure exacting tolerances. Small diameter camshaft grinding wheels on certain BC cam part numbers like Honda B and K Series, Nissan SR20 and Mitsubishi 4G63 deliver added valve action for greater cylinder fill rates. All BC crankshafts and connecting rods are made from the highest quality 4340 steel alloy, CNC machined and finished to the tightest industry specifications. Premium grade 6AL4V titanium retainers, 100% RC checked for hardness, and super clean chrome silicone spring wire for the highest rpm range possible. Every product line is tested on precision measuring instruments for accuracy, imperfections and metallurgy. Dyno tested and tuned for optimum results.

im just trying to figure out if thats true or not this is on thir website did they lie?

according to john they are
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well i talked to brian crower and a tech named dustin wen i got my cams from them
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well the websit and bc clearly say they made bc because they wanted to open up to the import world
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That would be Crower, but I will let you guys check around on this. I was told this by a very reliable source that BC and Crower are not one in the same. Now I know that they have access to the same equipment because when there dad passed they both got the rights to the company and the equipment. If you think about it, Crower would offer the same parts as BC if that were the case, I mean why break up the company? If you think about it, why are all Crower cams billet but BC cams are mostly cast? These are just somethings I have been told by those in the know, they could have missleaded me but I would have to say that is not the case till someone can prove otherwise.

Just FYI for those that are willing to listen.

Well stated on the website BC makes all there CRANKSHAFTS from 4340 steel, that however doesn't state whether or not the camshafts are made from a casting. I would highly doubt they would do that though, but you never know.
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Well stated on the website BC makes all there CRANKSHAFTS from 4340 steel, that however doesn't state whether or not the camshafts are made from a casting. I would highly doubt they would do that though, but you never know.

I have seen the cams first hand thet appear to be casted units, but I could be wrong and someone was trying to sell me stock cams.... no idea. I do know that the Crane, HKS, and BFR cams are billet.

Again guys, take this for what its worth. I have talked with several on the BC stuff to find out that very few warehouses stock his stuff. That could be one of many reasons and I suspect that quality is one of them. I am not saying "buyer beware", I am just sharing what I have been told and seen first hand. Not trying to stir things up, just trying to share. With that said, OP I am sorry to hear that your set up took a shit on you, it sucks and I hope that something can be done about it.
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I have seen the cams first hand thet appear to be casted units, but I could be wrong and someone was trying to sell me stock cams.... no idea. I do know that the Crane, HKS, and BFR cams are billet.

Again guys, take this for what its worth. I have talked with several on the BC stuff to find out that very few warehouses stock his stuff. That could be one of many reasons and I suspect that quality is one of them. I am not saying "buyer beware", I am just sharing what I have been told and seen first hand. Not trying to stir things up, just trying to share. With that said, OP I am sorry to hear that your set up took a shit on you, it sucks and I hope that something can be done about it.

just an fyi to clarify for you, they are forged not cast
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the cams are forged? is that what ur saying
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the cams are forged? is that what ur saying

yes i just finished looking at mine lol
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