Where's the pics man. You say there is all this and that lets see it?
Prices change all the time, and it shows the type of person you are coming on here bitching about $25 when I decided to change a price a few weeks later. MY choice my company therefore you should have no reason to say ANYTHING about the money.
I never saw pics of any metal shavings, and overspray happens, it simply disinegrates when the turbo heats up and wheel begins to spin. Funny how you come on here posting a high school thread when you were perfectly fine about the overspray and never said ANYTHING about metal shavings in our PM's.
Another thread from a person who Im glad I wont be having as a customer anymore. The simple fact that you are going to bitch about $25 and make me out to be a bad guy because me the company changed a price. Stuff happens man with shipping and all. You sit back there waiting for your parts, while I have to do them. It's not nearly as easy as you think and I win some and lose some, but seriously I see exactly the type of person you are with what you are going on about, and the fact that you are making stuff up to make me look bad.
No pics on the metal shavings, then Ill call you out on it. I don't believe you plain and simple. My stuff is sandblasted 2 TIMES before clean up and coating there is NO PHYSICAL WAY there could have been metal shavings in there. There is NO AREA inside of a turbo housing small or constricted enough to trap the shavings while having 175 PSI of air and sand blasted at it, air blown through it numerous times before coating, and a 4000 PSI Pressure washer.
Normally Ill apologize and accept the fault, but you made crap up to make me look bad. Bitch about what's wrong the time it took me to get it to you, but don't come on here saucing up the situation to get me bashed in open forums.
And yes the overspray may have been me being in a rush. The quality of the work was flawless, porting, coating, ect...overspray was probably the only thing and it has to have been super small. Again it does nothing but disintegrate when the car hits boost one time.
You guys can rant and rave, but I've been here since the beginning and of course there is going to be issues. I was very young and didn't change a core on a group buy. That's where it all began and it took me 2 years to recover.
Funny how none of you say the good things, how I stuck through what no other company has (Dyno Works, Kustomatix). Why dont you shed light on the positive things instead of starting a high school bandwagon against me. Yeah I've messed things up but in 4 years Ive stuck through it all never ripped anyone off, and done damn good work.
Glad to see some of you guys are so pessimistic, and thrive on being able to attack a vendor any chance you get.
Last edited by FullyBuiltJosh : 04-29-2008 at 12:13 PM.
i would buy anything that josh sells! why? becausehe is one of the best vendors onhere that does portwork. he has the lowest prices ten anyne else on here and he wil always follow through on any commitment he has. it might take him awhile to get you your products but they are always excellent work and his products make the best power.
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all i will say is stock head/cams, stock turbo and stock block, so im pretty much stock running low 12's
ya, josh is defiantly going to have me as a customer for life, had amazing service and got my manifold back quick..... Gregg over at bwoody was powder coating my manifold and said when it was done and hanging up, 2 ppl tried to make offers on it after seeing the port work and powder......
Thanks guys. Im by no means perfect, but thread like this are destructive, and sorry you can tell me till your blue in the face it had metal shavings in but I dont believe you. There is nearly 20 processes I do that involve 175 PSI air, and the pressure washer. If I can get sand out of OIL GALLEYS in heads with that process then you couldn't possibly make me believe that metal was in there.
Sorry it wasnt a pleasant experience for you but a cheap upgrade like that, that makes big power is well worth it. The overspray shouldn't have been there but by no means would it have hurt anything.
Where's the pics man. You say there is all this and that lets see it?
Prices change all the time, and it shows the type of person you are coming on here bitching about $25 when I decided to change a price a few weeks later. MY choice my company therefore you should have no reason to say ANYTHING about the money.
I never saw pics of any metal shavings, and overspray happens, it simply disinegrates when the turbo heats up and wheel begins to spin. Funny how you come on here posting a high school thread when you were perfectly fine about the overspray and never said ANYTHING about metal shavings in our PM's.
Another thread from a person who Im glad I wont be having as a customer anymore. The simple fact that you are going to bitch about $25 and make me out to be a bad guy because me the company changed a price. Stuff happens man with shipping and all. You sit back there waiting for your parts, while I have to do them. It's not nearly as easy as you think and I win some and lose some, but seriously I see exactly the type of person you are with what you are going on about, and the fact that you are making stuff up to make me look bad.
No pics on the metal shavings, then Ill call you out on it. I don't believe you plain and simple. My stuff is sandblasted 2 TIMES before clean up and coating there is NO PHYSICAL WAY there could have been metal shavings in there. There is NO AREA inside of a turbo housing small or constricted enough to trap the shavings while having 175 PSI of air and sand blasted at it, air blown through it numerous times before coating, and a 4000 PSI Pressure washer.
Normally Ill apologize and accept the fault, but you made crap up to make me look bad. Bitch about what's wrong the time it took me to get it to you, but don't come on here saucing up the situation to get me bashed in open forums.
Well to continue my HIGH SCHOOL THREAD, The shavings were not discovered until last week when I was CLEANING THE OVERSPRAY FROM INSIDE THE HOUSING that is why I never said anything about it in the PM. I was pretty pissed when I saw the shavings and that is why there are no pictures and also why it ended in the trashcan.
Dont believe me, I dont care! The whole purpose of this thread was to have anyone else who bought from you to check the parts before installing so nothing bad could happen that is all! Maybe it slipped through the cracks!!!
The port worked looked great. Hows that for a POSITIVE.
My first problem was when your add said you had 5 READY TO GO housings and that it took 5 weeks to get. Then you lower the price on parts when you cant even get the orders you have had for a month out. You made it right with me so that was cool but the way you run you business sucks. But you said it. ITS YOUR BUSINESS AND YOU WILL DO IT THE WAY YOU WANT.
Thats great!!! Have a great time. Im done with this and you.
So you threw the turbo away. What it sounded like there...if you did I don't need to say anything more.
Plain and simple. It started with one thing, then another, then another. So it just seems like you kept finding ways to try and make people thing badly of me.
Like I said sorry it didn't work out, but until you walk my shoes don't discredit anything I do because I'd put a million cash up to say you couldn't overcome the things I have in this business.
** Just to clarify on my comments (which are self explanitory), I have NOTHING bad to say about you josh. Like I told you I think your work is flippin sick bro. I was very impressed. I would never tell anyone NOT to do business w/fully b. The portwork is mean. just takes a while thats all.
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So you threw the turbo away. What it sounded like there...if you did I don't need to say anything more.
Plain and simple. It started with one thing, then another, then another. So it just seems like you kept finding ways to try and make people thing badly of me.
Like I said sorry it didn't work out, but until you walk my shoes don't discredit anything I do because I'd put a million cash up to say you couldn't overcome the things I have in this business.
Yes I threw it away. I was done dealing with it. That is where it was destined from the beginning. No sense in carrying on with something that seamed to be heading that way from the beginning.
Still have not received an answer as to why your add said you had 5 ready to go housings and it still took 5 weeks to ship? My original intent wasnt to discredit you or your work but rather give a heads up. But you seem to do this on your own by all of your how you have had to overcome so much in business. Ask yourself how you got into those situations.
If I were you I would think really hard about overcoming adversity with business. YOU HAVE NO IDEA.
And yes the overspray may have been me being in a rush. The quality of the work was flawless, porting, coating, ect...overspray was probably the only thing and it has to have been super small. Again it does nothing but disintegrate when the car hits boost one time.
You guys can rant and rave, but I've been here since the beginning and of course there is going to be issues. I was very young and didn't change a core on a group buy. That's where it all began and it took me 2 years to recover.
Funny how none of you say the good things, how I stuck through what no other company has (Dyno Works, Kustomatix). Why dont you shed light on the positive things instead of starting a high school bandwagon against me. Yeah I've messed things up but in 4 years Ive stuck through it all never ripped anyone off, and done damn good work.
Glad to see some of you guys are so pessimistic, and thrive on being able to attack a vendor any chance you get.
Josh...take it easy. As I said earlier it's about respecting the customer and helping them. Not getting mad about them being upset. Nobody likes a shotty job just as much as a vendor deserves a thank you for a job well done. If the guy is upset there is probably a reason right? I am not sure what steps he took or you took to resolve it but maybe stepping away from the situation personally and seeing it from the other side of the fence would help. There have been lots of thread bashing against FBM over the years...most of it is from slow service and response. I don't think it has ever really been a quality issue itself. To get all big headed and say it's your company you can do what you want is the same as a person saying it's my money I can complain if I want right? Don't forget, it is THE CUSTOMER who keeps FBM or ANY company in business. The ONLY way to keep customers happy is to improve how they are treated. Just my 2 cents again...none of the threads will sway my opinion of FBM...I will still come to you when there is a service you have that I need. But when I do, I hope the turn around times that are quoted are accurate. If you tell me it will take 2 weeks..I'll wait 2 weeks. If I wait 4 weeks and go without a courtesy call or PM....well is that good service? Again, just my 2 cents. None of this is knocking FBM...I speak about how all vendors should provide service.
I hope it all gets resolved for everyone's enjoyment.
I agree man, but sorry this thread was completely unnecessary. His attitude was completely wrong. You don't know the story so I wouldn't expect you to full understand it, but look at all the others threads I have dealt with and the way I responded. In a very respectfully and upstanding way. This time I lashed out simply because he was cool in PM's and had no issue with cleaning up a little bit of overspray, then it went to metal shavings showing up, this thread, ect...I just don't believe what he's saying. Then to say he threw a perfectly good turbo in the trash, come on man that just shows exactly the type of person he is. Who throws $200 in the trash? You know me man, I don't act like this ever with a customer, but if you read through you will see exactly how much BS is in this thread.
My turnaround time is an issue, and has been but product is always top notch
I agree man, but sorry this thread was completely unnecessary. His attitude was completely wrong. You don't know the story so I wouldn't expect you to full understand it, but look at all the others threads I have dealt with and the way I responded. In a very respectfully and upstanding way. This time I lashed out simply because he was cool in PM's and had no issue with cleaning up a little bit of overspray, then it went to metal shavings showing up, this thread, ect...I just don't believe what he's saying. Then to say he threw a perfectly good turbo in the trash, come on man that just shows exactly the type of person he is. Who throws $200 in the trash? You know me man, I don't act like this ever with a customer, but if you read through you will see exactly how much BS is in this thread.
My turnaround time is an issue, and has been but product is always top notch
Yeah, I will help ya punch the customers a bit too. We all know there are SOME customers who complain just to get free shot or a better deal. You all know who you are....and it's a bunch of B.S. too. Then there are the bandwagon supporters who can't make a decision on their own so they join a support group of whiners....
I agree, I don't believe a good turbo was thrown away either. But, I can't see it from my house to know the difference. If it was thrown out...well....DUMBASS....
Anyway, keep doing what you do...just kick it up a notch.
BTW, some friends of mine are opening a new tuner shop out there very soon (really nothing to do with SRT's but I spoke with you a while back about SEMA and possible interest in distributorship for your stuff, this may come in handy). They are waiting on the business license still. Their 8,000 sqft shop is in the LA area, one shop in San Diego already. Maybe something can happen??? I may be out there in a week or two for the opening...you should check them out. I am certain there will be many of their shop cars present. Got or need anything srt parts wise I can bring out with me? I am looking for an Apexi AVCR if you know of any....I have a bunch of stuff laying around too. Still trying to get my spare engine built up...have a head coming really soon.
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I agree man, but sorry this thread was completely unnecessary. His attitude was completely wrong. You don't know the story so I wouldn't expect you to full understand it, but look at all the others threads I have dealt with and the way I responded. In a very respectfully and upstanding way. This time I lashed out simply because he was cool in PM's and had no issue with cleaning up a little bit of overspray, then it went to metal shavings showing up, this thread, ect...I just don't believe what he's saying. Then to say he threw a perfectly good turbo in the trash, come on man that just shows exactly the type of person he is. Who throws $200 in the trash? You know me man, I don't act like this ever with a customer, but if you read through you will see exactly how much BS is in this thread.
My turnaround time is an issue, and has been but product is always top notch
Sure, a thread thats purpose was to inform people to take some extra time to check out there housing before install is way out of line.
I dont really care if you believe me or not. I didnt post this for you. If I had pictures what would that prove? From dealing with the internet and people like you they would most definately be fake, Right?
I was cool and really didnt have a problem with everything that has occurred through our PM's until it became one thing, then another , then another. That is why I decided to go another route with my turbo and discarded the housing that I got 6 weeks after I ordered it. My thoughts on it were What next. I wasnt going to waste time fixing a mess and I wouldnt feel right sending my problems to someone else so in the trash it went.
And as far as BS in this thread goes, The only BS I see comes from YOU. It all goes back to the original question. If you had 5 ready to go turbo housing, and then your lathe broke, Then you really didnt have 5 ready to go housing after all? Thats BS.
I dont really care if you believe me or not. I didnt post this for you. If I had pictures what would that prove? From dealing with the internet and people like you they would most definately be fake, Right?
What??? Not trying to take sides but you don't feel pictures would have been good? They wouldn't prove anything? You just bad mouthed his work....I don't understand now.
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