Was up every body.I was leaving down town from dropping my girl off at work and I was going over the veterans bridge and no traffic so I said just go.so pedal to floor and second gear all the way to red line I boosted 14 psi never had that happen to me only went 12 to 13.and it feels real good looked real quick it was very close to 15.Think the aem made a difference?It was kinda hot.I love this car.
not that it matters with a turbo car.........it all gets heated up when it goes through the hairdryer...........its our intercooler that keeps intake temps down, want cooler air upgrade your intercooler or get a ic sprayer......intake air temps arent going to be affected by adding a cai. the aem makes its gains based on bigger tube diameters and flow characteristics.......
Originally posted by SRT-4sjf I give up. Buy the AEM and be on your way to lower hp.
That is not fact. I quote another thread in this very forum where a dyno shows you to be incorrect.
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Dyno #'s. My car is the one Aem dynoed. I actually saw a 8pk HP increase on sleeper motorsports dyno. 220.6 compared to 229.5.
tq increase was 11 ft-lbs. 233.4 compared to 244.7. Testing was done with the hood shut!
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guys not to start more fighting here but what i am going to say came right from ethan bayer the performance engineer with PVO...we met with him last night in our detroit meet.......anyway he said the AIM hurts the car any hot air taken in from the engine compartment hurts.....the air box is not a stock neon one and was designed specifically for the car....the inlet tube is 2 1/2 in for a reason of velocity of air into the turbo...the bend on that tube into the turbo has as he said "many many hours of dyno time on it to get it correct" the air intake from the hood was planned production but scrapped because of water getting in so they made the air intake from the fender bigger to compensate.....now dont shoot me im only the messanger this is what he said he also talked about the exhaust motor mount inserts intercoolers and stage 2 some of this is talked about in the thread "detroit meet and greet with PVO" it was very informative and told alot of info.....but like ethan said we have dynos and sensors to determine eveything for horsepower and flow and why don you think we have a short ram or cold air intake availabel??? he stated if we can not pick up hp or torque we are not going to sell it...again dont shoot me just stating what he said
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To me it kind of boils down to this. Is the compressed air out of the turbo always at the same temp when say you’re at 14psi no matter what? I personally don’t believe so. I think the temp of the intake air dictates this along with the outside temp cooling the turbo. Does the IC cool those temps to a constant temp no matter what’s being drawn in? Again I don’t believe so. I’m not a engineer but common sense tells me that there’s an efficiency factor involved here. This all again is determined by intake air into the IC along with the temp of the air being fed through the IC. I think the only thing that the AEM really does is uncork the intake to the turbo. I also believe at the same time it also draws in hotter air as compared to the fender well. So you see where I’m going here. Hotter air in = hotter air out of both turbo and IC. Just my .02
Here... I posted this in the "Perrin Silicone Intake" thread.
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As a current (almost former)-accord driver, I know a lot about the "SRAM vs. CAI" argument. Air intake on naturally aspirated cars is one of the few bolt-on power mod's that can be performed. Now anyone that passed 8th grade science knows that cold air is denser/more compressed, which is why cold air is preferable in an engine. However... we got into such a heated argument on this on my old site (more heated even then "teh purpl3 vs. IEATVTEC" about the ridiculouse LT1 vs. LS1)... that we ran a test mounting temperature sensors to both an SRAM and a CAI on two V6 6th generation Accords. The temperature difference was 0 once the Accord acquired a speed of 15 mph or greater. Now, imagine what the difference would be if you had an intercooler. Hmm?? On the other hand, while a lot of Accord drivers swore by their CAI's, SRAM Accords were almost always faster... less hp gain, but they seem to open up the breathing (the CAI on a 6th gen Accord almost seemed to reduce the effects of VTEC).
I know I know... and Accord is not an SRT-4... which is why I'm trading one in for the other... but still, just trying to help =) If someone knows for sure that a CAI will benefit this car more than an SRAM, tell me, so I know to get one. But until then, I think I'll stick with an SRAM.
To add to that - If you had an "icebox" (like the Comptech Icebox... which I don't think they make for the SRT-4...) well that's a different story. But once your car has any decent speed, the air rushing through the front grille is going to make ambient temperature in the engine bay the same as the temp on the ground.
Originally posted by SoCalSRT To me it kind of boils down to this. Is the compressed air out of the turbo always at the same temp when say you’re at 14psi no matter what? I personally don’t believe so. I think the temp of the intake air dictates this along with the outside temp cooling the turbo. Does the IC cool those temps to a constant temp no matter what’s being drawn in? Again I don’t believe so. I’m not a engineer but common sense tells me that there’s an efficiency factor involved here. This all again is determined by intake air into the IC along with the temp of the air being fed through the IC. I think the only thing that the AEM really does is uncork the intake to the turbo. I also believe at the same time it also draws in hotter air as compared to the fender well. So you see where I’m going here. Hotter air in = hotter air out of both turbo and IC. Just my .02
actually what ethan said is that the air box on the car was designed to flow more then enough air...just because you dont get the vroom sound does not mean that their is not enough air going to the turbo from the stock air box.....as he stated the hood mod was suppost to come on the car but because of water gettting into the air box in a driving rain they scrapped that (but left it there for us if we wanted to do it) but he said they made the air intake tube from the fender and the opening from that to the airbox to compensate...he said this was all flowed and checked ....again im just stating what a PVO engine performance engineer said (and this is the guy who is doing all the stage kits so i think he knows what he is talking about)
Originally posted by SRT-4sjf Congrats, your intake temp just got hotter.
Shelton, is this comment called for?
We all know from your 100 anti AEM posts where you stand on on the AEM, but don't go raining on this guys parade.
He's happy with his AEM, and so am I.
I'm sure you have better things to do with your time like making some more of those killer exhaust pipes!
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I wasn't very happy with the aem, now with the 3" exhaust the AEM makes a difference you can feel! I'm 100% positive that my car is faster with the AEM.....not so sure though about it when I had the stock exhaust
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