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Old 12-10-2006, 09:54 PM   #76 (permalink)
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wait........I thought there was an upgrade for the Neon/srt altenator?.......for at least the neons I know the altenator for 99-04 was lower output that the one for the 05's.......and isn't there a company that sells the upgrades?
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Old 12-10-2006, 10:09 PM   #77 (permalink)
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yes there is kinetik and optima sell alternators for the srt4 you should look into these for performance alternators i really recomend these hope this helps later
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Old 12-13-2006, 12:21 AM   #78 (permalink)
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it did help, I'll look into it
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Old 12-14-2006, 02:04 AM   #79 (permalink)
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you might just be better with a cap. what are you running and how much rms do u want to push. what size cables are u running (power ground)
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Old 12-14-2006, 01:01 PM   #80 (permalink)
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well I've got (2) 2.5 farad caps being split between the (2) 3000 watt amps pushing (2) 12's each..... sum1 else told me that I need to get a better altenator, the "big 3" ground wires, and a yellow/red top battery.
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Old 12-14-2006, 10:39 PM   #81 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by gski4life
wait........I thought there was an upgrade for the Neon/srt altenator?.......for at least the neons I know the altenator for 99-04 was lower output that the one for the 05's.......and isn't there a company that sells the upgrades?

ok my bad the company that makes bad ass alternators would be stingray i have seen this company in allmost all of sound competitions and i hear nothing but good thins from the people not only about alternators but about every product they have man i should charge them for publicity i could be making bank right now hehe well hope this helps later
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Old 12-14-2006, 10:46 PM   #82 (permalink)
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Yea all nice set-ups Im placin an order to JL

Heres what Im getting....

fronts - zr650's
rears- vr690's
sub- 8w7
amp- jl5005
all jl wiring and probably the pioneer premier dehp880prs

I work for tweeter so I get a crazy deal on the stuff
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Old 12-15-2006, 10:09 AM   #83 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by gski4life
well I've got (2) 2.5 farad caps being split between the (2) 3000 watt amps pushing (2) 12's each..... sum1 else told me that I need to get a better altenator, the "big 3" ground wires, and a yellow/red top battery.

I assume the amps are 3000 peak if this is so then it is probably at about 3500 total RMS. If you are planning to run this with no loss form your alternator or battey you have another thing comming. You will have a bit of DC loss and some AC lag. If i were you i would look into having a professional tune and maybe an additional quick charge red or yellow top somewhere. An aftermarket alternator will help with the ac power draw, but there will still be some dimming of the interior and exterior lights because of the fast draw of energy to the amps. The caps will help you out a lot!!!! You obviously did the smart thing by adding them to your set-up, but the one thing that was over looked was the basic calculation is 1 farad for every 1000watts of power (this leaves you a little short for your cap charge if you are running 6000watts and only 5000watts of cap coverage)

WHAT I WOULD DO:
First - look into an additional, stand alone power source.
Second - buy another cap (to help you with the power delay issue)
-OR- sell the 2 caps you have and buy a 6farad and run that by itself
Third - get a good equalizer for tuning all of your componets together (or you will get all of the stuff in your car and have it POUNDING, but it may be aout of tune and sound like complete $#!t)
Last - if you are not completely confident in your ability to tune this system HAVE IT PROFESSIONALLY TUNED. (It may save you from blowing everything you have bought so far.... i am sure you have some type of warantee, but usually they will void out if it is somehow overpowered)

----------------OR----------------

sell 2 of the subs and one of the amp and get a tuned custom box and have a much more efficient system. everything will be much more ballanced, easier to wire and tune, and in all honesty will probably be louder than all 4 (sorry to say it)

BUT NO MATTER WHAT YOU DECIDE!!!!!!!!! PLEASE DO THE FOLLOWING:

make sure you have a GOOD ground (same gauge cable as your power)- it makes a huge diffrence

Get a good Fuse or even a circuit breaker relay. I will save your @$$. Trust Me.

Do not be afraid to ask someone for help!!!

and LABEL everything you wire. when your system goes out (not if.....WHEN) you will thank me.

If you need some ideas feel free to PM me. I would rather help you now than hear about the trunk fire on the 6 o'clock news

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Old 12-17-2006, 09:01 AM   #84 (permalink)
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man thanks a bunch on that.........I honestly was thinking of getting rid of 2 or the subs and the other amp.........my reasons were because of the power draw and I wasn't sure if I could get a setup in the trunk to look nice/sound good/ and FIT (4) 12's.......I'm not trying to do SPL drags or anything, just doing a all around show car...........trust me I'll stay in contact with you with plenty of questions
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Old 12-17-2006, 09:10 AM   #85 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by Yavuz
Heres the box I made for my 4 Resonant engineering 8s... Its pretty nifty, I have 1" diameter electical tubing running from the front to the back of the box so you cant see any wiring.





Unfourtuantely after a few years of abuse one of the subs blew out on me and I cant find an RE dealer to sell me one... So the box has been sitting in my basement. I'll probably end up selling it sometime.


If it were me, I would keep that box, and put some kickers in there. http://www.crutchfield.com/S-wiVY09t...20&I=2065C8VR4

You could get 4 kickers for 200 right now via crutchfield
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Old 12-17-2006, 11:33 AM   #86 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by srt_jesse
yes there is kinetik and optima sell alternators for the srt4 you should look into these for performance alternators i really recomend these hope this helps later


post them up. I've researched and found none. I really don't think they make one, your best bet would to be find an 03 alternator.
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I read another thread the other day that said that there are no upgrades for our cars, alternator wise.
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Old 12-17-2006, 01:31 PM   #88 (permalink)
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I read another thread the other day that said that there are no upgrades for our cars, alternator wise.


there aren't... I just want to see where he is getting his information from. The style of our alternators is posing a problem for companies like stinger and ohio two very reputable names in the industry. Not to mention the voltage is controled by the ecu. What most people have told me to do is get another alternator and slap that in, run duallies.
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Old 12-18-2006, 06:55 PM   #89 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by 04electricblue
Quote: Originally Posted by rob1987
I read another thread the other day that said that there are no upgrades for our cars, alternator wise.


there aren't... I just want to see where he is getting his information from. The style of our alternators is posing a problem for companies like stinger and ohio two very reputable names in the industry. Not to mention the voltage is controled by the ecu. What most people have told me to do is get another alternator and slap that in, run duallies.

i have a buddy who owns a stereo shop and i believe that he told me tha kinetic optima or stingray are the companies that carrie alternators fo our cars let me make sure and double check with him cuz he has a 05 with an upgraded alternator let me make sure and ill let you guys know for sure by the end of this week
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Old 12-18-2006, 10:37 PM   #90 (permalink)
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see thats what I'm talking about, I heard that the 05 neons had a 120 volt alt compared to the 90 volt (i think)........I know I seen it somewhere on 2gn.org, just can't find it right now
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