I'm beside myself at some of the quirky electrical questions I see on here!
For those that actually know how to work on the electronics and or aftermarket stuff in vehicles know what I'm talking about. I mean, most of these questions just flat out scare me. Most of you people on here don't even know that you don't know enough to attempt what you shouldn't. Do any of you actually have an idea what kind of trouble you can get your car in to just by grounding or energizing the wrong circuit? Do you also know that shops like mine love to charge extra for your screw ups? I actually charge double and seriously many times that's not even enough!!!!
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For those that actually know how to work on the electronics and or aftermarket stuff in vehicles know what I'm talking about. I mean, most of these questions just flat out scare me. Most of you people on here don't even know that you don't know enough to attempt what you shouldn't. Do any of you actually have an idea what kind of trouble you can get your car in to just by grounding or energizing the wrong circuit? Do you also know that shops like mine love to charge extra for your screw ups? I actually charge double and seriously many times that's not even enough!!!!
rant done.
I know exactly what your saying. But you know what they say, ignorance is bliss. Besides if you didn't have people like that it would hurt your buisness.
I couldn't agree any more. It boggles my mind how people see the need to bring their car to a professional for engine work or a brake job, but will not bring their vehicle to a professional to service their 12v system when a misstep in either can be VERY unsafe. I have no problem charging double (and sometimes more) to repair your mistakes. Just because you or your friend hacked a radio into a 94 Civic or you're a mechanic/electrician/MIT professor (my personal favorite) doesn't make you qualified to install anything related to car electronics.
Oh and BTW, after the MIT professor left insisting he could install his radio in his 97 Cavalier() I happily charged him to install it 6 hours later after he couldn't figure out how to take his dash apart.
I couldn't agree any more. It boggles my mind how people see the need to bring their car to a professional for engine work or a brake job, but will not bring their vehicle to a professional to service their 12v system when a misstep in either can be VERY unsafe. I have no problem charging double (and sometimes more) to repair your mistakes. Just because you or your friend hacked a radio into a 94 Civic or you're a mechanic/electrician/MIT professor (my personal favorite) doesn't make you qualified to install anything related to car electronics.
Oh and BTW, after the MIT professor left insisting he could install his radio in his 97 Cavalier() I happily charged him to install it 6 hours later after he couldn't figure out how to take his dash apart.
LOL, the late model cavi has given me more to laugh at with the customers who think they can or some girls boyfriend who is too proud to let anyone work on her car and after he breaks the dash and cuts the harness off , they wonder why we charged them $200 for an install that should have cost them $47 at most...
I am glad that I was not the only one completely amazed at the questions some people ask about the electronic issues with their cars... nice post, it makes me feel like less of a dick knowing I am not the only one who laughs at most of the posts about electronics.
wait so you don't tape the power wire to the rca's and run them together down the car to the amp? who would of thought, oh where is the best place to run the power wire through the fire wall i have mine just ran down the door jam for now.
lol.
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LOL, the late model cavi has given me more to laugh at with the customers who think they can or some girls boyfriend who is too proud to let anyone work on her car and after he breaks the dash and cuts the harness off , they wonder why we charged them $200 for an install that should have cost them $47 at most...
I am glad that I was not the only one completely amazed at the questions some people ask about the electronic issues with their cars... nice post, it makes me feel like less of a dick knowing I am not the only one who laughs at most of the posts about electronics.
It's nice to hear that there are some of you that feel the same as I do. That's why I took some time off from here. I had a guy on here flame the snot out of me because he couldn't follow my directions on how to install an alarm/remote start on his ride. He ended up with a HUGE mess and an interior full of smoke. Of course he started off the conversation that he knows what he's doing because he's installed plenty of stereos.
Hmmm, where is the simularity of alarm and stereo other than some 12v and wire????
haha i had a guy the other day insisting that his amp was going into protect because it was a 2000w 2ch amp and he only had a 500w (actual RMS) dual 4 sub and the amp somehow knew that it would blow the sub so it was protecting his sub. He absolutely refused to listen to reason and called me an idiot .
You should have seen the look I got when I started talking about Ohms law and not only how it was utterly impossible for his amp to make 2000w as well as ridiculous to think that an amp was somehow "smart enough" to know it was hooked up to a certain rated sub .
My favorite is when someone shows up with thier big box system with 2 billion watts is the best there ever was. Then I show them my 100 watt Walmart budget system and it rocks as good if not better than their "subs only" setup. The look they give me is priceless.
Ponchonutty; its the complete dumbing down of the nation at large.
Back in the Golden Era of ICE (mid 80's to late 90's)
Back when Sound Offs didn't need to be apart of a Car Show, it was just as big if not bigger....
There were eager people willing to learn how to build passive crossovers, knew how to calulate box volume and knew how to FOLLOW DIRECTIONS!
We seem to have a culture that wants to be spoon feed everything and wants to learn nothing.
This started with the checkbook stereo systems and show cars; this trend started with the billet Hot Rods of the early 80's and filtered down into other segments of the hobby.
With the market now flooded with product, prices have dropped like a rock.
Somebody with some basic skills and desire can put together a very nice system for half as much as it cost 10-15 years ago.
The Neon comes apart easy if you know what tools to use...
They go into Circuit City and Best Buy looking for the "quick" fix with salepeople are are kept generally stupid as to not confuse the customer and loose a sale (something I have personally done, I presented the customer with TOO MUCH CHOICE..and he left shaking his head)
For 99% of the public they need no more than a small sub system or Bazooka Bass Tube. That is plenty of "bass" for most people.
If you go into Pep Boys and find a sub system and amp for $170 and you go into specialized audio shop and find the same system cost you three times as much with installation. Its for a reason and its not soley for profit....
You could put in the same system if you shop smartly and build the box yourself (not hard) and save 40-50%.
haha i had a guy the other day insisting that his amp was going into protect because it was a 2000w 2ch amp and he only had a 500w (actual RMS) dual 4 sub and the amp somehow knew that it would blow the sub so it was protecting his sub. He absolutely refused to listen to reason and called me an idiot .
You should have seen the look I got when I started talking about Ohms law and not only how it was utterly impossible for his amp to make 2000w as well as ridiculous to think that an amp was somehow "smart enough" to know it was hooked up to a certain rated sub .
Geez OHM's law is Stereo Basics 101...
I keep a cap value and Ohm's table in the garage...
I couldn't agree any more. It boggles my mind how people see the need to bring their car to a professional for engine work or a brake job, but will not bring their vehicle to a professional to service their 12v system when a misstep in either can be VERY unsafe. I have no problem charging double (and sometimes more) to repair your mistakes. Just because you or your friend hacked a radio into a 94 Civic or you're a mechanic/electrician/MIT professor (my personal favorite) doesn't make you qualified to install anything related to car electronics.
Oh and BTW, after the MIT professor left insisting he could install his radio in his 97 Cavalier() I happily charged him to install it 6 hours later after he couldn't figure out how to take his dash apart.
and that is something you don't want to just jump intoi worked in a shop abour 2 years before i felt like get in to doing alarms.. i still dont liike doing them,..
My friend is one of them. He has tweeters hooked directly into his door panel speakers and insists he doesnt need crossovers. I do most of my own installs, but I take it to a friend whos been in the business if im unsure of something. Most of it is pretty easy if you follow some basic rules.
They go into Circuit City and Best Buy looking for the "quick" fix with salepeople are are kept generally stupid as to not confuse the customer and loose a sale (something I have personally done, I presented the customer with TOO MUCH CHOICE..and he left shaking his head)
Be nice to Circuit... I work there part time as an installer. I love doing it and I LOVE making fun of the other people even more!
We need ya buddy. Welcome back. I'm not super heavy on the install side, I can do the basics. What makes me good, is I know what I don't know and have no problem taking my ride to a pro for the things I don't know how to do or am to lazy to do myself.
What I won't let ANYONE else do (unless they have SQ credentials) is tune my car!!! Most people even installers (sorry if this offends anyone) don't have a clue what "good" sound is!!! They have no clue of proper frequency response, path length differences, phasing errors ect ect. They don't even have a good set of head phones or a good home system to reference when tuning.
As far as the big box installers, They are good at what they do. They are good at speaker and 4's and thier is nothing wrong with that. The system I'm gathering parts for now will be super duper simple using some fairly cheap (about 500.00 total) components. But Once I'm done with it, I'll put it up agains 95% of the system on this forum and it will sound better. And I mean over all better!!! NOT just bass!!!!
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I'm beside myself at some of the quirky electrical questions I see on here!
) doesn't make you qualified to install anything related to car electronics.
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