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Old 06-03-2008, 10:54 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Petro Canada is scamming us

Well e red(erik) and myself both filled up tonight at Petro. 91 octane after a 3.5cent discount was $1.405

We both got $55 worth of 91 octane.

My pump read 38.624L = $1.423/L

His 37.698L = $1.457/L

Almost a full liter difference that he didn't get

So i paid an extra $0.018/L over advertised

Erik paid and etra $0.052/L over advertised

Maybe every pump reads differently at all petro Canada's

Only thing i can see is if he didn't get the 3.5cent discount but still 1.8 over advertised
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hmm it appears that the pump price may of been different than the sign price. Argh damn gas stations.

Guess i will just have to pay more attention next time.


At least i got to rant about prices though
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Old 06-04-2008, 01:30 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Even worse on 94.

Try Chevron, at least you can get some save-on-more points.
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And this shocks you why?
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Who fucking cares.

These people drill it out of ocean, refine it, transport it, put it in the ground, pay all the overhead, and it's a completely inelastic good. We're lucky they don't charge us $5 per litre.

Plus you're arguing about less than $.75. Fuck, I'm just so sick of everybody bitching about gas prices.

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Edit: that looked a lot more offensive that I intended it. I realize it is mpore expensive than it was, but regardless, it's less expensive than they could get away with.
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Who fucking cares.

These people drill it out of ocean, refine it, transport it, put it in the ground, pay all the overhead, and it's a completely inelastic good. We're lucky they don't charge us $5 per litre.

Plus you're arguing about less than $.75. Fuck, I'm just so sick of everybody bitching about gas prices.

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Edit: that looked a lot more offensive that I intended it. I realize it is mpore expensive than it was, but regardless, it's less expensive than they could get away with.

well I sure am glad DODGE did NOT use your logic when they were setting prices up for the SRT4, or we would have paid $40,000 !!!
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I still can't believe people who drive SRT-4's fill up on any other 91 then Shell V-power. I was getting 20% improvement in gas mileage compared to ANY 91 or 94 avaliable. So even if you're getting 2-3 cents off the price of gas, it still doesn't translate nowhere near the gas mileage improvement you're gonna see.

I strictly used Shell 91 in my NSRT-4 and got 450-475km EVERY TANK, no matter how hard I drove the car. Everyone I know has switched to Shell 91 and reported same thing. Usually it's about 50-75km/tank MORE. I use Airmiles and 3-4 times a year I'd get $40 in gas vouchers back.

Now I got the Caliber SRT-4 and couldn't wait to run out the junk it had in the tank so I can fill up some V-power.
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Quote: Originally Posted by LondonSRT4 View Post
Who fucking cares.

These people drill it out of ocean, refine it, transport it, put it in the ground, pay all the overhead, and it's a completely inelastic good. We're lucky they don't charge us $5 per litre.

Plus you're arguing about less than $.75. Fuck, I'm just so sick of everybody bitching about gas prices.

/rant

Edit: that looked a lot more offensive that I intended it. I realize it is mpore expensive than it was, but regardless, it's less expensive than they could get away with.

I am sorry but we have a right to be pissed about gas prices. When every gas station in the city can raise the price at the exact time.... I have a problem. Damn when word gets out about any problem in the middle east and twenty minutes later I am bent over for another 5 cents a liter.... I have a problem. The government can play the sympathy card all they want but we all know the tax on a 1.50 a liter is sweet. It is all about supply and demand , think about it, pump just enough to keep the price high. I cannot wait for the day a car is developed (trust me this can be done now) that uses little/no gas and all the oil cock@%ckers will be giving the oil away.

end of rant........ looks more offensive than I intended
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I still can't believe people who drive SRT-4's fill up on any other 91 then Shell V-power. I was getting 20% improvement in gas mileage compared to ANY 91 or 94 avaliable. So even if you're getting 2-3 cents off the price of gas, it still doesn't translate nowhere near the gas mileage improvement you're gonna see.

I strictly used Shell 91 in my NSRT-4 and got 450-475km EVERY TANK, no matter how hard I drove the car. Everyone I know has switched to Shell 91 and reported same thing. Usually it's about 50-75km/tank MORE. I use Airmiles and 3-4 times a year I'd get $40 in gas vouchers back.

Now I got the Caliber SRT-4 and couldn't wait to run out the junk it had in the tank so I can fill up some V-power.

maybe i should switch over to v-power.. 94 is the most pricey and the gas mileage is terrible even with stock setup..ive just heard sunoco to be the best quality and cleanest fuel for your engine/fuel system from scientific studies..now im confused!
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The pumps update on the fly. It's less likely they are scamming you and more likely you're not looking at the pump before you start. The pumps update on the price on the fly and are usually well ahead of the big sign. If the prices change while you're there, it's easily possible that you paid a different price than someone else.

They don't bait you with a lower price on the sign and then sucker you with a higher price at the pump. It can work the other way too; the sign can be higher than the pumps.
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Quote: Originally Posted by Maj Dump View Post
The pumps update on the fly. It's less likely they are scamming you and more likely you're not looking at the pump before you start. The pumps update on the price on the fly and are usually well ahead of the big sign. If the prices change while you're there, it's easily possible that you paid a different price than someone else.

They don't bait you with a lower price on the sign and then sucker you with a higher price at the pump. It can work the other way too; the sign can be higher than the pumps.

Read my second post
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Read my second post

I did, I was further explaining that it can also change while you're there.
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either way it sucks and now gas is just under $1.50L for 87

Now that is about $1.65 for 94
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"Lucky" (I use this term loosely), we don't have the $.035 discount here in Ontario. Which means there should be no discrepancy between the price on the sign and the price on the pump. For those that haven't been to BC (I think Alberta has it now as well), there is an unofficial discount between the price on the sign and a price on the pump, cannot remember the reasoning now, but it has been going on for a number of years in BC. So if the price on a sign is $1.40, the actually price when you go to pump is cheaper (slightly). I guess maybe it's supposed to make people feel better about their purchase? However, in Ontario, if I showed up at a gas station and the price on the sign was lower then the price on the pump I'd leave. Not because of a .01 or .02 difference but because it is false advertising. What's to stop them from advertising $1.20 on the sign but charging you $1.40 when you get to the pump. No point of having the sign at all. I have been to a gas station where they announced the price was changing and changed the sign price before changing the price on the pumps, so as long as you were at the gas station before the sign changed that that was the price you paid for gas (up or down).

As with the run up of any stocks, commodities, trust unit, etc & even housing prices. The slow rise in price is a result of increase in demand or a reducing in supply. The rapid increase is a result of everyone seeing a slow rise in their prices and jumping on board assuming the price is just going to keep rising (it's called speculation). It happened with gold recently when it went up to over $1000 per ounce, it's happened/happens with many, many stocks and it's currently happening with oil. Oil should not be anywhere near $140 per barrel, there is still more then enough supply to last us many years to come. Some day this speculation will end and oil will plummet. It wasn't more then 10 years ago that oil futures were only $15 per barrel, so $30 - $40 oil is possible, however, OPEC will likely do what the can to not let it happen.
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Quote: Originally Posted by love2race View Post
"Lucky" (I use this term loosely), we don't have the $.035 discount here in Ontario. Which means there should be no discrepancy between the price on the sign and the price on the pump. For those that haven't been to BC (I think Alberta has it now as well), there is an unofficial discount between the price on the sign and a price on the pump, cannot remember the reasoning now, but it has been going on for a number of years in BC. So if the price on a sign is $1.40, the actually price when you go to pump is cheaper (slightly). I guess maybe it's supposed to make people feel better about their purchase? However, in Ontario, if I showed up at a gas station and the price on the sign was lower then the price on the pump I'd leave. Not because of a .01 or .02 difference but because it is false advertising. What's to stop them from advertising $1.20 on the sign but charging you $1.40 when you get to the pump. No point of having the sign at all. I have been to a gas station where they announced the price was changing and changed the sign price before changing the price on the pumps, so as long as you were at the gas station before the sign changed that that was the price you paid for gas (up or down).

As with the run up of any stocks, commodities, trust unit, etc & even housing prices. The slow rise in price is a result of increase in demand or a reducing in supply. The rapid increase is a result of everyone seeing a slow rise in their prices and jumping on board assuming the price is just going to keep rising (it's called speculation). It happened with gold recently when it went up to over $1000 per ounce, it's happened/happens with many, many stocks and it's currently happening with oil. Oil should not be anywhere near $140 per barrel, there is still more then enough supply to last us many years to come. Some day this speculation will end and oil will plummet. It wasn't more then 10 years ago that oil futures were only $15 per barrel, so $30 - $40 oil is possible, however, OPEC will likely do what the can to not let it happen.

I've always thought they should get rid of those stupid signs.

Why does the price of gas have to be in my face all the time? It's stupid. I get gas when I need it, not because I want to.
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