ot sure if anything has been posted about this bill already, but have a look.
Basically, a MP in Ontario wants to federally limit all new vehicles to a top speed of 150km/h.
It has passed the 1st reading in parliament so, obviously, it is being taken seriously.
I'm not sure what exactly the consequences would be to sports car/ racing enthusiasts, but it's concerning non the less.
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2nd Session, 40th Parliament,
57-58 Elizabeth II, 2009
house of commons of canada
BILL C-319
An Act to amend the Motor Vehicle Safety Act (speed limiters)
1993, c. 16 - Her Majesty, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate and House of Commons of Canada, enacts as follows:
Definition of “speed limiter”
5.1 (1) In this section, “speed limiter” means a device mounted on a vehicle that, when engaged, electronically limits the maximum speed at which the vehicle is driven to the speed set on the device.
Restrictions re manufacture, importation, sale and lease
(2) No person shall manufacture, import into Canada or sell or lease to another person a vehicle unless it is equipped with a speed limiter that is engaged and set to a maximum speed that is not greater than 150 kilometres per hour.
Duty of repairer
(3) No person who repairs or maintains a vehicle shall release the vehicle to another person unless the vehicle is equipped with a speed limiter that is engaged and set to a maximum speed that is not greater than 150 kilometres per hour.
Restriction on operation
(4) No person who owns a vehicle or leases a vehicle from another person shall operate the vehicle or allow it to be operated by another person unless it is equipped with a speed limiter that is engaged and set to a maximum speed that is not greater than 150 kilometres per hour.
Application
(5) This section applies to vehicles manufactured on or after January 1, 2010 that are not fire-fighting vehicles, ambulances, police vehicles or other vehicles that are used for the purpose of emergency or vehicles that belong to a class of vehicles that is exempted from the application of this section by regulation.
Time to write your MP's guys well those of you who like to track your street cars that is......
meh, someone will have a solution to disconnect it before its even out and then when u get caught for going 150+ u plug it back in and say its not even possible for you to be going that fast. this could be a good thing lol
Last edited by silversport : 09-18-2009 at 07:44 PM.
I think everyone in Ontario should take advantage of our democratic rights and have McGuinty thrown out. The economy is tanking and they have nothing better to do than think of new road safety rules. Meanwhile, Ignatieff just wants to get into power. He hasnt even spoken 1 sentence about his masterplan that will magically fix the economy.
They have said time and time again that the 401 is one of the safest highways in the world, so there lies a point where new safety laws are just diminishing returns.
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That will be such an impossible thing to do and cost would be astronomical.. I can see it for "new" cars but for every car on the road.. good luck on that you fucking retarded politicians.. I can still do a burnout on your lawn!
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That will be such an impossible thing to do and cost would be astronomical.. I can see it for "new" cars but for every car on the road.. good luck on that you fucking retarded politicians.. I can still do a burnout on your lawn!
I think the document said "manufactured beyond 2010" no mention of doing anything with previous years or retrofitting....
I could be wrong on this, but I was under the impression that most cars came with (electronic) limiters of "150 MPH', I think they are trying to reduce the top end speed of these limiters down to a max of 150 KM, a signifiant drop.
Steve from Fast Trac would probably chime in on this one.
This was brought up before with the government. It never happened then and i doubt it will happen now. Ontario is pretty much the only province making a stink about speeding. Maybe everyone in Ontario will be forced to drive smart cars so they can not drive over 150km/h lol
What's the point, it's still allowing someone to speed 50 km/hr above the legal highway speed limit.
Anyways, wouldn't this clash with the other new law that's lets them take the car away from you above 150 ? So would they change the rule on that law as well to be lower ?
This won't stop people from speeding up to 150, it sounds like it's more for making him look good, otherwise he would have dropped it to 120 km/hr to stop the speeding.
Doesn't make sense, unless the government is getting a kickback for every limiter sold...
Wouldn't this piss off the manufacturers as well who sell Porshes, Lambos, etc...?
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[Your MPs Name]
[Your Riding]
House of Commons, Parliament Hill
Ottawa, ON
K1A 0A6
[Your Name]
Resident of [Riding]
[Address]
Dear [Your MP]
I am writing today to voice my opposition towards Bill C-319, "An Act to amend the Motor Vehicle Safety Act (speed limiters)".
I recognize that this Bill is a private members bill sponsored by the Honourable Jim Karygiannis of Scarborough—Agincourt and thus is not pressing parliamentary business, however I must ensure that my opposition to this bill is noted. I have also written Michael Ignatieff's office as well as that of Mr. Karygiannis.
My opposition to this Bill does not center around its intended goal of creating safer public roads, in fact that is a commendable cause, my concern is based on the fact that this bill seeks to achieve this objective through heavy-handed means. The most worrying provision in this bill is the federal mandating of speed limiters at 150km/h on all vehicles sold in Canada. As a responsible automotive enthusiast this worries me. As it stands there are numerous safe, private tracks for enthusiasts to take advantage of where speeds in excess of 150km/h can be safely and legally achieved. Should this bill become law it will be illegal for us to use our otherwise entirely safe and entirely street legal vehicles in a responsible manner on public roads, effectively shutting out those who cannot afford multiple vehicles from this enjoyable and wholesome hobby. Such a law will add an unnecessary hurdle to those who wish to partake in motorsports in a responsible way, and infact encourage dangerous and illegal street racing on public roadways as a legal alternative will be out of reach.
Automotive motorsports have received negative press in the last few years, as people flagrantly disobey the law and partake in this activity on public roadways. In fact automotive motorsports are safe, enjoyable and lead to innovation in the automotive sector. The solution is to encourage the safe and legal practice of conducting such activities on legal and safe private race tracks. Adding a massive hurdle in front of drivers who wish to do the responsible thing is not an effective way to deal with this issue.
I would be interested to hear your opinions on this matter.
Sincerely,
[Sign in pen]
[Your Name]
[Date]
Send this to Jim Karygiannis, the fuker that introduced this bill:
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Hon. Jim Karygiannis
Scarborough—Agincourt
House of Commons, Parliament Hill
Ottawa, ON
K1A 0A6
[Your Name]
Resident of [Riding]
[Address]
Dear Mr. Karygiannis,
I am writing today to voice my opposition towards your Private Members Bill, Bill C-319, "An Act to amend the Motor Vehicle Safety Act (speed limiters)".
I recognize that I am not one of your constituents, however I must ensure that my opposition to this bill is noted. I have also written my member of parliament's office as well as that of Michael Ignatieff.
My opposition to this Bill does not center around its intended goal of creating safer public roads, in fact that is a commendable cause, my concern is based on the fact that this bill seeks to achieve this objective through heavy-handed means. The most worrying provision in this bill is the federal mandating of speed limiters at 150km/h on all vehicles sold in Canada. As a responsible automotive enthusiast this worries me. As it stands there are numerous safe, private tracks for enthusiasts to take advantage of where speeds in excess of 150km/h can be safely and legally achieved. Should this bill become law it will be illegal for us to use our otherwise entirely safe and entirely street legal vehicles in a responsible manner on public roads, effectively shutting out those who cannot afford multiple vehicles from this enjoyable and wholesome hobby. Such a law will add an unnecessary hurdle to those who wish to partake in motorsports in a responsible way, and infact encourage dangerous and illegal street racing on public roadways as a legal alternative will be out of reach.
Automotive motorsports have received negative press in the last few years, as people flagrantly disobey the law and partake in this activity on public roadways. In fact automotive motorsports are safe, enjoyable and lead to innovation in the automotive sector. The solution is to encourage the safe and legal practice of conducting such activities on legal and safe private race tracks. Adding a massive hurdle in front of drivers who wish to do the responsible thing is not an effective way to deal with this issue.
I would be interested to hear your opinions on this matter.
All the parties blow. I'm moving to the Canaries. Who's with me? We'll build our own race track resort... it'll be awesome...
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whatever fred. im not gonna get into a political argument w/ you. every parties has their own fault, even the PC/ Consv. party.
but anyway..
Your right there are even things about the CPC I can't stand but they are the only party who try not to infringe on our rights as much as the others. They are also the most honest and upfront of all the parties we have to choose from....They have a get tough on crime stance unlike the liberal revolving door justice system...but they also want to throw everyone who grows even 1 pot plant in the clink and that's where I start to disagree with the CPC....who cares what people grow as long as it doesn't hurt anyone it should be no ones business.....tobacco and alcohol are much worse for you anyhow.....
Now if we had a libertarian party that's who I would vote for....smaller cheaper government, lower taxes, personal freedoms, property rights, right the self defense, less spending on welfare shift to workfare where career welfare recipients are put to work for the people who are paying their way....ect....
Emails are fine but make sure if you don't receive a reply in a couple days to follow it up with a written letter or a fax.....All the MP's are in their home riding's until the 28th so you can even call their home riding office and speak directly to them!...that's what I do my MP and I are on a first name basis.
All the parties blow. I'm moving to the Canaries. Who's with me? We'll build our own race track resort... it'll be awesome...
I hear Panama is nice, property is cheap and taxes are low and you can carry a concealed firearm.......crime is very very low there as well....My buddy Derek is in the middle of moving his family and his multi-million dollar security business there to avoid Ontario's horrible corporate taxes.
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