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Old 11-04-2009, 12:07 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Ok so since my boost starts at around 15-16psi in 2nd it's ok but when I hit 3rd it jumps up to like 18psi then in 4th it hits like 19psi causing it 3rd gear and 4th gear to be too lean. This really messes up the tune I think. Is there any way I can get it to hold 16-17psi in 2nd, 3rd, 4, and 5th gear? Any way to adjust the wastegate so it holds the same boost in all gears? What should I get for fuel if I wanna run 18-19psi just injectors or a return line and/or fuel pump too?
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Post a datalog so everyone can see what you're talking about.

18-19psi is about where you want it.

Regardless of if you 'think' its lean, you should add fuel only in response to Knock. Adding up to 10%-15% Fuel is not out of the question.

2nd gear in my car breaks the tire loose at about 5K so its the quick rise in RPM pulls the boost back quickly to about 15psi from the initial 19psi spike. If you look at your RPM curve compared to your Boost curve you'd see the Boost lvl is very simliar at the same RPM. Since 2nd gear raises RPM so quickly it just looks like the boost level is different.
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Post a datalog so everyone can see what you're talking about.

18-19psi is about where you want it.

Regardless of if you 'think' its lean, you should add fuel only in response to Knock. Adding up to 10%-15% Fuel is not out of the question.

2nd gear in my car breaks the tire loose at about 5K so its the quick rise in RPM pulls the boost back quickly to about 15psi from the initial 19psi spike. If you look at your RPM curve compared to your Boost curve you'd see the Boost lvl is very simliar at the same RPM. Since 2nd gear raises RPM so quickly it just looks like the boost level is different.

I don't have a laptop and my scangauges aren't working right now all I have is my wideband hooked up and sitting on the dash. In 3rd-4th gear my wideband reads up to 12.5ish. If I want more fuel should I get injectors?
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I don't have a laptop and my scangauges aren't working right now all I have is my wideband hooked up and sitting on the dash. In 3rd-4th gear my wideband reads up to 12.5ish. If I want more fuel should I get injectors?

lets try this again:

Use the DSP to datalog You don't need a laptop, the DSP will save a log internally.

DON'T waste money on injectors,,ADD FUEL WITH THE DSP, BUT ONLY IF THERE IS KNOCK!!!
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but what if I wanna run 20psi? stock fuel system isn't gonna do that is it? how do i datalog with the DSP?
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but what if I wanna run 20psi? stock fuel system isn't gonna do that is it? how do i datalog with the DSP?

A breif 20psi spike is not an issue for the fuel system.
READ the Predator manual to learn how to datalog.
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If you want to hold 20psi you are using the wrong turbo.
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It doesnt say how in the manual that i got
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can anyone please tell me how to? i don't have adobe so i can't download pdf files and in the predator manual there isn't anything to show about data logging
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If you want to hold 20psi you are using the wrong turbo.

I'll be going big turbo sometime but for now I want to get the most out of the stocker since I think I'm almost there and then go to school for now.
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2nd gear is not a gear to care about tuning wise...seriously. I tuned in 3rd gear and 2-4 is perfect. Just tune properly in 3rd
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yeah I usually do 2nd-4th but really watch in 3rd and 4th and record on the scangauges
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tune in 3rd.

unless you have wheel spin in 3rd
than i suggest 4th
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tune in 3rd.

unless you have wheel spin in 3rd
than i suggest 4th

Haha yeah, big turbos and 3rd ain't too fun...well after the lag
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