You're missing the point. Why screw around with an external boost controller when you have the PCM to do it? The PCM is far more advanced than any electronic boost controller, not to mention an MBC.
Can you show me one PCM controlled stock turbo hitting 300whp?
Can you show me one PCM controlled stock turbo hitting 300whp?
Thanks.
Show me one stock turbo hitting 300 hp that is daily drivable without PTB. Peak numbers mean nothing.
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This. When it's on PCM controlled boost it boosts slow as shit. I only put it back on for long road trips.
PCM control doesn't cause it to "boost slow as shit." You have no idea what you are talking about, and have proven that many times in the past few weeks.
This. When it's on PCM controlled boost it boosts slow as shit. I only put it back on for long road trips.
Here I'll learn you,,,,again
Here's your log from 3rd gear ~45mph/3000rpm. It takes your boost about 3 seconds(2.77s) to build to 19psi max.
Here's my log. Starting from nearly the EXACT same rpm/mph my PCM boost control and STOCK wga build boost to ~20psi max in LESS THAN 1 SECOND(.8s)
Which boost curve would you rather have?
SRTrent: This is your latest log, which by the sucky boost curve looks like its off PCM control. If its Off PCM control your just wrong but if its actually ON PCM control, you obviously aren't doing something right
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ok so i got kinda confused will all the posts haha...so i already have the 91 octane tune from the dsp. i still have the stock wga on my car but i was plannin on installing an agp wga(which i already have). should i or should i not install the agp one??
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I only saw the FM WGA get mentioned once. And he was running off PCM control. I know the AGP and FM WGA's were designed for different applications. Now I have the FM WGA on PCM control. Would I also want to put my stock WGA back one once my DSP arrived?
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Any non-stock WGA will have a stiffer spring than the stocker. The WG Duty Cycle is based off of the stock spring rate. To use anything other than stock you should get a CMR tuner to make a change for you, but there really isn't any reason to because you don't benefit from using a different WGA.
Any non-stock WGA will have a stiffer spring than the stocker. The WG Duty Cycle is based off of the stock spring rate. To use anything other than stock you should get a CMR tuner to make a change for you, but there really isn't any reason to because you don't benefit from using a different WGA.
Show me one stock turbo hitting 300 hp that is daily drivable without PTB. Peak numbers mean nothing.
PCM control doesn't cause it to "boost slow as shit." You have no idea what you are talking about, and have proven that many times in the past few weeks.
I've never had any PTB issues when i was internally gated, and I have even less now that i'm on Ext gate. So, I guess i'm one example.
Also, I believe guys experiencing PTB cannot drive worth a shit. I had my wastegate tightened to hell, ready to spike 25lbs and I never saw 1lb of boost when daily driving. (Mainly for gas saving )
ok so i got kinda confused will all the posts haha...so i already have the 91 octane tune from the dsp. i still have the stock wga on my car but i was plannin on installing an agp wga(which i already have). should i or should i not install the agp one??
bump my question haha...can i please get a straight answer to this please. i plan on installin tomorrow???
No the stock one is the only one to use with a 93 dsp tune-and no spring mod either-my car spiked like shit because i had the spring on-. try loading 15% fuel above 3000-7000 first then data log for knock st-LT
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you guys act like pricks for real... I just read from where I last wrote something. when I was ON PCM controlled boost it felt like it boosted way slower than being OFF PCM controlled boost. I guess I will try PCM controlled boost. And you're right I don't know too much about the DSP but everyone has to learn sometime.. not everyone knows everything in the beginning. So you guys are saying I will be able to boost and hold 18-20psi on the stock WGA then it will fall off near redline?
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When it's on PCM controlled boost it boosts slow as shit. I only put it back on for long road trips.
. oh well. cant wait), BFMIC, Bigger injectors.
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try loading 15% fuel above 3000-7000 first then data log for knock st-LT
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