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srtofdeathga · 11-02-2009, 01:47 PM

Heres My Question I Have A Agp Wga And Was Going To Install The 93 Per Tune Tonight What Else Would I Need To Tweek For The Wastegate Not Being Stock? Its Stil Pcm Controlled

Gizmodo · 11-02-2009, 04:08 PM

Put the stock WGA back on. There is no need for an aftermarket WGA with the DSP. There really isn't anything to gain. If you keep the AGP, you will need a CMR tuner to adjust the wastegate duty cycle.

thoedsrt4 · 11-02-2009, 04:22 PM

i had the agp wastegate with 93 tune pcm controlled and i was running crasy boost spiking 20 or more in all gears so i put the stock 1 back on runs alot better

srtofdeathga · 11-03-2009, 06:52 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Gizmodo

Put the stock WGA back on. There is no need for an aftermarket WGA with the DSP. There really isn't anything to gain. If you keep the AGP, you will need a CMR tuner to adjust the wastegate duty cycle.

Quote: Originally Posted by thoedsrt4

i had the agp wastegate with 93 tune pcm controlled and i was running crasy boost spiking 20 or more in all gears so i put the stock 1 back on runs alot better

WELL HERES THE THING I HAVE A STOCK WGA BUT I BOUGHT THIS CAR WITH ONE ALREADY ON IT NOT SURE IF I CAN PUT IT ALL BACK TOGETHER RIGHT

Gizmodo · 11-03-2009, 07:47 AM

The stock WGA mounts in the same way the AGP does. All you have to do is remove the two bolts holding it on, unhook the arm, and then reverse the process with the stocker. You may have to remove the top heat shield as well.

srtofdeathga · 11-03-2009, 08:26 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by Gizmodo

The stock WGA mounts in the same way the AGP does. All you have to do is remove the two bolts holding it on, unhook the arm, and then reverse the process with the stocker. You may have to remove the top heat shield as well.

BUT WHAT ABOUT THE LINES THAT HAVE BEEN REMOVED THERES A GREDDY BOV ALSO HOOKED UP DOES THAT MATTER

Gizmodo · 11-03-2009, 10:23 AM

What lines were removed? The bov shouldn't matter.

orooso · 11-03-2009, 10:27 AM

some one needs to learn to not use caps....and maybe use the search??? a wastegate is as easy as changing the oil if not easier......

nfrancis1 · 11-03-2009, 10:40 AM

if all the lines are removed, you are not pcm controlled. you can do a search on vacuum lines/diagrams, and you will find the thread that shows all the different ways to route the hoses. you can leave the agp wga on w/ the dsp, u just have to get the waste gate duty cycle (WG DC) adjusted to work properly. there is a group of guys that say they will do it for free, just search for free tunes. i have no experience with the guy, so i cant vouch for his work. also, in the how-to stickies, there is a thread for agp wga install that you can follow in reverse for the stock wga. there is also a thread somewhere w/ how to use agp wga w/ pcm control for dsp. sorry i cant provide you links, i honestly dont feel like searching for the stuff right now. good luck with the car. and search the forums more, u can find answers (often given multiple times) for just about any question you may have.

nfrancis1 · 11-03-2009, 10:41 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by orooso

some one needs to learn to not use caps....and maybe use the search??? a wastegate is as easy as changing the oil if not easier......

yeah, dont use all caps. it means that YOU ARE YELLING if u didnt know. doesnt bother me, but does offend many. and yes, search.

SRTrent · 11-05-2009, 05:07 PM

So what's the big difference in using the stock WGA and an aftermarket one? I'm using the FM WGA OFF of PCM controlled boost right now. How would the stock one be better and how does it affect the wastegate duty cycle? If I get mine tuned for it then it would be better than stock right?

Gizmodo · 11-06-2009, 09:02 AM

Quote: Originally Posted by SRTrent

So what's the big difference in using the stock WGA and an aftermarket one? I'm using the FM WGA OFF of PCM controlled boost right now. How would the stock one be better and how does it affect the wastegate duty cycle? If I get mine tuned for it then it would be better than stock right?

If you aren't letting the PCM control boost it doesn't matter how much you or a CMR dealer tune, the boost won't change.

SRTrent · 11-06-2009, 09:04 AM

The boost WILL change if I adjust the wastegate though...

Gizmodo · 11-06-2009, 03:15 PM

You're missing the point. Why screw around with an external boost controller when you have the PCM to do it? The PCM is far more advanced than any electronic boost controller, not to mention an MBC.

SRTrent · 11-06-2009, 03:51 PM

So you are saying that it would be better to be on PCM controlled boost with the stock WGA rather than OFF or ON PCM controlled boost with an aftermarket WGA?