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Old 01-05-2009, 04:07 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I was wondering if anyone out there is on stock turbo on e85.

whats recommended boost and thins like that.

trying to gets this straight before i email rage for my free tune.
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I was wondering if anyone out there is on stock turbo on e85.

whats recommended boost and thins like that.

trying to gets this straight before i email rage for my free tune.


there's more to it then just tuning it to run E85 straight... You need more fuel system.
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like what?
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like what?


Well considering it takes about 40-60% more to run ethanol you have to increase your fuel system by about that much. Not just inectors either... volumetric flow is just as important. Normally you'll find you won't need AS big of injectors if you upgrade the fuel system correctly.. If you're looking to it because it's cheap. You're incorrect considering your mileage will drop off thus you'll fill up more often. If you were looking to it for power then upgrade the fuel system.
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Well considering it takes about 40-60% more to run ethanol you have to increase your fuel system by about that much. Not just inectors either... volumetric flow is just as important. Normally you'll find you won't need AS big of injectors if you upgrade the fuel system correctly.. If you're looking to it because it's cheap. You're incorrect considering your mileage will drop off thus you'll fill up more often. If you were looking to it for power then upgrade the fuel system.


hmm..never thought about that. but i dont think it would make much of a differance for MPG to $. i think it would equal out. since its so much cheaper than 93. when when my brother and i went to E85 on his GSX DSM. MPG went down by about 3 or 4 but for the price we pay for E85 evens it out.

how big are our stock fuel lines?
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Here is a nice little price calculator.
Miles Per Dollar Calculator

Someone else in one of the other E85 threads said you can do a simple
1.3x the price of E85 and if it is cheaper then price gas you should be ok.
From a power standpoint because E85 is a higher octane I do not think you can compare it to 93. I would compare it too 100unleaded. As stated you would need to upgrade your whole fuel system and maybe even get a tune for the E85, which wouldn't be cheap.
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Ethanol take about 30% more fuel than regular. It will need a diffrent tune to add the fuel or if you have a standalone add 30% to your enrichment board just to get you going.
The only problem with E85 is its not E85 in the winter were the weather gets cold its like E70 to help the car start since ethenal burns much cooler.
It is great for makeing more power though you should see a small jump in dyno numbers and a huge drop in IAT.
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Here is a nice little price calculator.
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Someone else in one of the other E85 threads said you can do a simple
1.3x the price of E85 and if it is cheaper then price gas you should be ok.
From a power standpoint because E85 is a higher octane I do not think you can compare it to 93. I would compare it too 100unleaded. As stated you would need to upgrade your whole fuel system and maybe even get a tune for the E85, which wouldn't be cheap.

Considering I've seen cars make more on E85 then on 110 leaded I wouldn't compare it to 100 either.
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I knew it was better then 93 for sure but 110 nice.
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Considering I've seen cars make more on E85 then on 110 leaded I wouldn't compare it to 100 either.


I normally refer to it as C16 for the Skreet!! lol. I lvoe the stuff. Just wish I had more stations out here! Then I'd be running dat ish! E85+spray=match made in heaven as far as I'm concerned.
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I normally refer to it as C16 for the Skreet!! lol. I lvoe the stuff. Just wish I had more stations out here! Then I'd be running dat ish! E85+spray=match made in heaven as far as I'm concerned.

any idea how much fuel pump one would need for a 450 - 500whp 50trim car?
im trying to decied if im going to go dual 255 or put the real money and go with a A1000

and real men run E-98
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any idea how much fuel pump one would need for a 450 - 500whp 50trim car?
im trying to decied if im going to go dual 255 or put the real money and go with a A1000

and real men run E-98


Sorry I have no experience with E-98 but if you can direct me where to get it I'll give it a whirl.

Anyway to answer your question is kind of tricky.. I'm going to tell you right off the bat that I'm rather biased but I have good backing for my decision. I would say go sumped and either A1000 or there's a really good bosch one out there that works well can't remember the part number off hand.
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Sorry I have no experience with E-98 but if you can direct me where to get it I'll give it a whirl.

Anyway to answer your question is kind of tricky.. I'm going to tell you right off the bat that I'm rather biased but I have good backing for my decision. I would say go sumped and either A1000 or there's a really good bosch one out there that works well can't remember the part number off hand.

local race shop (maperformance) runs there drag car on E98, 8 1600cc injectors, 1001whp though a auto (4g63)

im piecing together a sump, might get kinda spendy., but the dual pump, i will also need all the lines, and a 400dollar hanger. who would have thunk, modifying a car gets expensive
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Quote: Originally Posted by Mindmelt101 View Post
I normally refer to it as C16 for the Skreet!! lol. I lvoe the stuff. Just wish I had more stations out here! Then I'd be running dat ish! E85+spray=match made in heaven as far as I'm concerned.

With it only available at one station in a 50mile radius of where I live I know what you mean. Hopefully we will get a few more stations then I'll be on E85 with the quickness! As if this .48ar hotside 50trim wasn't already a torque monster I could imagine what it would do with the extra timing allowed by the E85. There are several Evo's around here who have switched to it and I'm certainly envious. They are all running dual pump setups with 1200cc injectors and on Dyno Jets they are making between 520-600whp on different turbo/engine setups.
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With it only available at one station in a 50mile radius of where I live I know what you mean. Hopefully we will get a few more stations then I'll be on E85 with the quickness! As if this .48ar hotside 50trim wasn't already a torque monster I could imagine what it would do with the extra timing allowed by the E85. There are several Evo's around here who have switched to it and I'm certainly envious. They are all running dual pump setups with 1200cc injectors and on Dyno Jets they are making between 520-600whp on different turbo/engine setups.

know of anyways to run the dual 255s without having to buy fullblowns 400 bracket and still have problems at 1/2 tank? i like the whole surge tank idea that rage has, but i dont have the budget for that.
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