Go Back   SRT Forums - SRT4, SRT6, SRT8, SRT10 & Dodge Forum > SRT-4 Technical Discussion > Technical Tuning & EFI/EMS Electronics > DSport Workgroup
Register Home ForumForum Rules Photo Gallery Active Topics (D) Chat Mark Forums Read


SRTForums.com is the premier Dodge Neon SRT-4 on the internet. Registered Users do not see the above ads. Please Register - It's Free!


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 11-07-2009, 01:19 AM   #1 (permalink)
SRTforums Member
 
SRTrent's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Member Number: 65861
Location: Clarksville, TN
Trader Rating: (3)
Posts: 2,473
Default Couple more datalogs... trying new things

this one is in 3rd gear at like 16-17ish psi
Deposit Files

this one is in 3rd gear at like 19ish psi
Deposit Files

Let me know what you think
__________________
SRTrent is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 11-07-2009, 01:24 AM   #2 (permalink)
SRTforums Member
 
lyncoo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Member Number: 43166
Location: sanangelo,texas
Trader Rating: (92)
Posts: 13,296
Default

i tried to look at it it said no serial port available. im trying to figure this stuff out lol
__________________
AGP S256 FS
DSP> S3K>PORTING>BUILDING>TUNING contact ptp

To make a purchase please go to www.pt-performance.com
Shop hours are 9am to 7pm Monday-Saturday
Shop number 253-277-3843, Shop cell 253-653-3843
lyncoo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2009, 01:31 AM   #3 (permalink)
SRTforums Member
 
SRTrent's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Member Number: 65861
Location: Clarksville, TN
Trader Rating: (3)
Posts: 2,473
Default

Yeah dude this shit is confusing And they get mad at me... You gotta open up DS Dataviewer to view it I believe.
SRTrent is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2009, 12:12 PM   #4 (permalink)
SRTforums Member
 
Louisvilleguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Member Number: 17118
Location: Louisville, KY
Trader Rating: (2)
Posts: 1,142
Default

The first run looks good knock wise. Only one degree at around the magical 5400 rpm point but it drops off quickly. One thing that looks odd to me is the commanded a/f. What does your wideband read? Do you have a scangauge? It would be helpful to record A/F and RPM on your scangauge during the pull so you have a log of the actual A/F that you could compare and tune the car with. Also depending on your A/F, you could possibly try adding more timing in.

Duster: In regards to the first log he posted, the PCM is really trying to command an A/F that rich? I know there is probably more to it than that, but I am new to looking at these types of logs. I just picked up my DSP yesterday.

On the second log it seems to want to knock in the higher RPM range. Again what are your A/F's getting up to at the higher boost?

Lastly, I think you should log BARO as well. This way you can tell how much boost the PCM is really seeing (Avg Map to Use - BARO = psi). I would trust that more than a gauge.
__________________
04 SRT-4
- FP Green model
- 344whp/375wtq (AGP flash 93 octane)
Louisvilleguy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2009, 12:22 PM   #5 (permalink)
SRTforums Member
 
SRTrent's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Member Number: 65861
Location: Clarksville, TN
Trader Rating: (3)
Posts: 2,473
Default

hmm I think I'll do that later then it would be good to show boost on a datalog. My AFR's get up to 12.5ish around redline on the wideband. It's confusing to me too.
SRTrent is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2009, 06:10 PM   #6 (permalink)
Premium Member (Lifetime)
 
gump1114's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Member Number: 28766
Location: War-Town, GA
Trader Rating: (12)
Posts: 1,248
Lifetime Premium Member
Default

Quote: Originally Posted by Louisvilleguy View Post
Lastly, I think you should log BARO as well. This way you can tell how much boost the PCM is really seeing (Avg Map to Use - BARO = psi). I would trust that more than a gauge.

very very usefull info!
__________________
Broken-ISH.
gump1114 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-08-2009, 05:51 PM   #7 (permalink)
SRTforums Member
 
SRTrent's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Member Number: 65861
Location: Clarksville, TN
Trader Rating: (3)
Posts: 2,473
Default

What injectors should I get to max out the stock turbo? I can't even boost 17psi without even being too lean no matter how much fuel I give it so I don't know if anything is wrong or not.. they say you can boost 18psi on the stock fuel system well I can't...
SRTrent is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-08-2009, 06:44 PM   #8 (permalink)
Premium Member (Lifetime)
 
gump1114's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Member Number: 28766
Location: War-Town, GA
Trader Rating: (12)
Posts: 1,248
Lifetime Premium Member
Default

get a fuel return line and raise the fuel pressure and you can boost much more on the stockers.
gump1114 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-08-2009, 07:00 PM   #9 (permalink)
SRTforums Member
 
SRTrent's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Member Number: 65861
Location: Clarksville, TN
Trader Rating: (3)
Posts: 2,473
Default

Also with the way the weather is changing from hot during the day to cold at night really is fucking with the tune... so gay. Actually it's hot tonight too.
SRTrent is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-08-2009, 11:52 PM   #10 (permalink)
SRTforums Member
 
SRTrent's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Member Number: 65861
Location: Clarksville, TN
Trader Rating: (3)
Posts: 2,473
Default

I just click on AVG MAP TO USE but it doesn't say anything about BARO and it just read as high as 29psi on AVG MAP TO USE
SRTrent is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-09-2009, 07:52 AM   #11 (permalink)
Supporting Vendor (Gold)
 
ptperformance's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Member Number: 25514
Location: washington
Trader Rating: (567)
Posts: 29,475
Lifetime Premium Member
Default

Quote: Originally Posted by SRTrent View Post
What injectors should I get to max out the stock turbo? I can't even boost 17psi without even being too lean no matter how much fuel I give it so I don't know if anything is wrong or not.. they say you can boost 18psi on the stock fuel system well I can't...

Get a set of 750 injectors so you don't have to screw around with buying another set later on. Just get a rescale for them and you should be good to go.

Quote: Originally Posted by SRTrent View Post
I just click on AVG MAP TO USE but it doesn't say anything about BARO and it just read as high as 29psi on AVG MAP TO USE

What CROM file are you on? You can read the BARO you just have to know where to find it. Look around some and I am sure you can find that PID.

The reaon you see 29 psi is because you have to take the normally pressure (1 bar) into the equation. So 14 ish psi - boost pressure (AVE MAP TO USE) = acutal pressure. Also remember that you're only going to be able to see what the sensor can read out to. So, we have a 2.25 bar sensor, the most it can calculate is 18.8 psi or 29.2 ish in your AVE MAP TO USE pid. Hope that makes sense.
__________________
To make a purchase please go to www.pt-performance.com
Shop hours: 10am to 7pm Mon-Sat
Shop numbers: 253-277-3843 253-653-3843
Home of the DSP Tuned 657 WHP SRT4 Neon, 593 WHP SRT4 Caliber and the fastest stock turbo DSP tuned SRT4
DSP or Trinity
tunes send your request to tunes@pt-performance.com
For all other questions send them to ptperformance@comcast.net

"We build street cars you race at the track, not track cars you drive on the street"
ptperformance is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-09-2009, 08:42 AM   #12 (permalink)
SRTforums Member
 
SRTrent's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Member Number: 65861
Location: Clarksville, TN
Trader Rating: (3)
Posts: 2,473
Default

What about Stg 2 injectors? Would that be plenty of fuel to max out the stocker? I'm not gonna go big turbo for maybe another couple years...
SRTrent is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-09-2009, 08:54 AM   #13 (permalink)
SRTforums Member
 
Gizmodo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Member Number: 22931
Location: Minnesota
Trader Rating: (8)
Posts: 662
Default

Quote: Originally Posted by SRTrent View Post
I just click on AVG MAP TO USE but it doesn't say anything about BARO and it just read as high as 29psi on AVG MAP TO USE

Look under fuel flows.
Gizmodo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-09-2009, 11:46 AM   #14 (permalink)
Supporting Vendor (Gold)
 
ptperformance's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Member Number: 25514
Location: washington
Trader Rating: (567)
Posts: 29,475
Lifetime Premium Member
Default

Quote: Originally Posted by SRTrent View Post
What about Stg 2 injectors? Would that be plenty of fuel to max out the stocker? I'm not gonna go big turbo for maybe another couple years...

It is but remember that they run close to max duty cycle when you start getting close to 380 ft lbs of tq. I still say get 750's so you have the bigger injectors when you get a bigger turbo.
ptperformance is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-09-2009, 04:24 PM   #15 (permalink)
SRTforums Member
 
SRTrent's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Member Number: 65861
Location: Clarksville, TN
Trader Rating: (3)
Posts: 2,473
Default

Oh yeah and I'm on the newest CROM version 9v18 I think it is... It costs to get injectors rescaled? When I do get the injectors rescaled should I just put in the 3 bar MAP and TIP sensors too so I don't have to worry about them later?
SRTrent is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

Register Home Forum Photo Gallery Active Topics (D) Chat Mark Forums Read
  SRT Forums - SRT4, SRT6, SRT8, SRT10 & Dodge Forum > SRT-4 Technical Discussion > Technical Tuning & EFI/EMS Electronics > DSport Workgroup




Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

» Wheel & Tire Center

Sponsors

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.0 RC2

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:46 AM.

(C) SRTforums.com
Page generated in 0.15932 seconds with 13 queries

Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.1.0