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Old 10-22-2009, 09:37 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default 60-1 3rd gear datalog...

For some reason I just started picking up knock when I have not been. This datalog is with the 4306 plugs but I canged them back out and put the 2 step colder Iridium plugs back in at a .028 gap but it still did not help. I also found and fixed 3 boost leaks and it still did not help. I am running about 20psi with the af's in the hight 10's to mid 11's at redline on 93oct pump gas. I just don't see why it is knocking, anybody see anything wrong that might help me fix this?

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Old 10-22-2009, 01:05 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Just a few thoughts:

1) It could just be the gas you're using. Many stations are switching to a crap winter blend around here. Run this tank through and switch brands to see what happens. Be sure to clear the LT Knock before testing.

2) Your most prominent knock is at ~5100rpm, where, imo, false knock pops up. Be sure your Knock sensor is properly torqued to no more than 190in-lbs.

3) If this is a new tune, be sure TDS raised your knock thresholds. As far as I know, they usually do. won't hurt to double check.

4) Just a general observation: I've notice since last winter, most guys have a reduction in Knock as temps got warmer. Having a colder ACT but the same Boost psi does increase the charge density and likelyhood of knock, if the timing isn't properly reduced to match. I suspect we'll see more threads from guy's complaining about a sudden rise in knock.
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Old 10-22-2009, 01:48 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Quote: Originally Posted by duster360 View Post
Just a few thoughts:

1) It could just be the gas you're using. Many stations are switching to a crap winter blend around here. Run this tank through and switch brands to see what happens. Be sure to clear the LT Knock before testing.

2) Your most prominent knock is at ~5100rpm, where, imo, false knock pops up. Be sure your Knock sensor is properly torqued to no more than 190in-lbs.

3) If this is a new tune, be sure TDS raised your knock thresholds. As far as I know, they usually do. won't hurt to double check.

4) Just a general observation: I've notice since last winter, most guys have a reduction in Knock as temps got warmer. Having a colder ACT but the same Boost psi does increase the charge density and likelyhood of knock, if the timing isn't properly reduced to match. I suspect we'll see more threads from guy's complaining about a sudden rise in knock.

Well, I already did the fuel switch and it did not help. TDSAaron has already raised my knock thresholds also. You are right and kason23 told me the same thing it does seem to want to knock more in the colder air. Does everything else look pretty good to you?

What do you mean by clearing the LT knock? Just reset the computer or something?
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where exactly is the knock 1 sensor located?
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Quote: Originally Posted by duster360 View Post
Just a few thoughts:

1) It could just be the gas you're using. Many stations are switching to a crap winter blend around here. Run this tank through and switch brands to see what happens. Be sure to clear the LT Knock before testing.

2) Your most prominent knock is at ~5100rpm, where, imo, false knock pops up. Be sure your Knock sensor is properly torqued to no more than 190in-lbs.

3) If this is a new tune, be sure TDS raised your knock thresholds. As far as I know, they usually do. won't hurt to double check.

4) Just a general observation: I've notice since last winter, most guys have a reduction in Knock as temps got warmer. Having a colder ACT but the same Boost psi does increase the charge density and likelyhood of knock, if the timing isn't properly reduced to match. I suspect we'll see more threads from guy's complaining about a sudden rise in knock.

Will item #4 occur with PCM controlled boost?
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where exactly is the knock 1 sensor located?

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I believe the knock sensor in underneath the intake manifold right?!?!

And you reset LT knock by taking the negative off the battery or pull the 20 amp fuse underneath the hood.
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Also your getting kinda of a rise in PSI.

Its running 23psi at redline.
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Also your getting kinda of a rise in PSI.

Its running 23psi at redline.

Well, my gauge on the boost controller is saying 20.5psi and it was dead on on the dyno. Something might be going wrong with it or something. How is it that you said that I can read psi with the diablosport?
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ADV map to use minus BARO.. And I would go by that...
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Quote: Originally Posted by Kason23 View Post
ADV map to use minus BARO.. And I would go by that...

Ok, I will try that out. Hell, if it is rising that high, that's probably why i'm getting knock then. Damn that will suck if I have been running 23psi this whole time getting use to it and have to turn it down, it will feel like a turd.
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