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Old 10-05-2009, 11:08 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default 1st - 3rd gear pull delta44/log (KASON23 come in)

Feels great afrs are all in the low 11's even 10.8's no timing is added can I advance some timing? looks like zero kr with my meth kit. ran it from first to a lil bit of thrid gear. Kason23 please chime in.

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Old 10-06-2009, 12:08 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Your baro is still jacked up at over 19psi. Weren't you going to fix that? I strongly suggest you do. Not only can you not tell what your boost is in the log, an incorrect BARO screws with your fuel. Which is probably why your commanded A/F is 9.8 when the actual A/F is in the low 11s.

Your ACT are too high to be using meth unless your nozzle is improperly placed.



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Your baro is still jacked up at over 19psi. Weren't you going to fix that? I strongly suggest you do. Not only can you not tell what your boost is in the log, an incorrect BARO screws with your fuel. Which is probably why your commanded A/F is 9.8 when the actual A/F is in the low 11s.

Your ACT are too high to be using meth unless your nozzle is improperly placed.



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yeah lol first pegged the limiter for a split second...redline came on almost instantly in first on 8 psi...First gear is awesome on low boost it actually useful... I pulled on a 420whp 15psi procharged gt from a dig believe it or not.. I did not hit the limter on that run though lol

boost is controlled by the N2mb box and its 8-19-23-22-22 per gear. I have 800cc injectors no returnline and when I installed them with turbo666 rescale I was a tiny bit on the lean side (11.0 11.8 depending on boost in that specific gear) I added a tiny amount of fuel now I am looow 11 top of third at 23 psi and in the 10's and high 9's through out the other gears with the lower boost ranges.It feels right I just want to know if I can add some timing to it since I have no knock. As far as the meth goes I have it set to come on at like17 psi the act could it be that high because it was started in my drive for about 30 mins before I ran it.
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You need to fix the BARO
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You need to fix the BARO

I understand that.... And it would be fixed if I had the cash for the tip sensor. I still need a good $700-$900 for a good clutch. Then I will get the tip sensor and dyno tune.

I spent alot of cash so far and just want to enjoy the car for now, and it seems like its running great and the afr's are good so I do not see the immediate need. Basically I feel like I have to get a clutch before I drop another 120ish on a tip sensor.

I am not sure if a 3bar tip will even fix that reading because the wires going to the tip sensor or no longer connected to it the N2mb box taps into those wires and if I remember correctly a resistor was wired in to one of the wires...

Alll I want to know is can I advance some timing through out the rpm range.
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You can get 3 bar tip sensors for about $60.00. Just because the car "seems" like it is running well does not mean it is running right. As Duster said, baro is very important in most things the PCM does.
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You can get 3 bar tip sensors for about $60.00. Just because the car "seems" like it is running well does not mean it is running right. As Duster said, baro is very important in most things the PCM does.

if I can get it for $60 I will pick it up... Please lmk wher I can get it for this price!


ps I do not doubt Duster a bit, I actually think he is one of the more knowledgeable guy in this section.... I vote mod for him
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I understand that.... And it would be fixed if I had the cash for the tip sensor. I still need a good $700-$900 for a good clutch. Then I will get the tip sensor and dyno tune.

I spent alot of cash so far and just want to enjoy the car for now, and it seems like its running great and the afr's are good so I do not see the immediate need. Basically I feel like I have to get a clutch before I drop another 120ish on a tip sensor.

I am not sure if a 3bar tip will even fix that reading because the wires going to the tip sensor or no longer connected to it the N2mb box taps into those wires and if I remember correctly a resistor was wired in to one of the wires...

Alll I want to know is can I advance some timing through out the rpm range.

You should not have cut the wires for the tip sensor only spliced the boost box into them.....the boost control solenoid wires get cut and the resistor wired in there.
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You should not have cut the wires for the tip sensor only spliced the boost box into them.....the boost control solenoid wires get cut and the resistor wired in there.

well thats what I did then.... I followed the instructions to the tee...works great BTW.
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well thats what I did then.... I followed the instructions to the tee...works great BTW.

Cool deal and yes it does work great....the best thing i've gotten for the car in awhile.
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Its looks decent..well as good as it can be with the baro jacked up. Your timing looks a way to low to be running meth. My timing on 93 pump alone was 3* higher then yours. Its your graph is just all over the place lol. Def get the TIP sensor and add more timing.

Where is your W/M nozzle located at?
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Here is a comparison between ours just for measure.

Mine is on top while yours is on bottom.


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Its looks decent..well as good as it can be with the baro jacked up. Your timing looks a way to low to be running meth. My timing on 93 pump alone was 3* higher then yours. Its your graph is just all over the place lol. Def get the TIP sensor and add more timing.

Where is your W/M nozzle located at?

it is a single nozzle placed right near the exit tank of the intercooler on the coldside.

The stupid nozzle maybe clogged or my damn check vavle may be screwed again. but it does show that it is spraying via the progressive controller.
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Here is a comparison between ours just for measure.

Mine is on top while yours is on bottom.



oooh damn. I see now. Well fuk I guess I need to hit up ptp for a 3bar tip as long as its under a $100 I could spring for it.
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