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Old 10-21-2009, 01:37 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Got 131,000 on the srt now, I've noticed the past 2 oil changes I'm 1.5 to 2 quarts down every 3k. I'll add a quart at around 2k miles and at the oil change its about 1 quart down. The car doesn't smoke, no oil on the plugs, and compression test showed 145, 145, 150, 155. Only thing I've noticed is on the oil return off the 50 trim there is oil coated around it, the tube, and over the bottom of the center cartridge. But I'm not finding 2 quarts of oil leaking out there, just a coating. What should I do next? It started happening just 2 oil changes ago so it was quite sudden. Before this the car lost no oil between changes. Just wanted to get some input before I start tearing shit apart.
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Got 131,000 on the srt now, I've noticed the past 2 oil changes I'm 1.5 to 2 quarts down every 3k. I'll add a quart at around 2k miles and at the oil change its about 1 quart down. The car doesn't smoke, no oil on the plugs, and compression test showed 145, 145, 150, 155. Only thing I've noticed is on the oil return off the 50 trim there is oil coated around it, the tube, and over the bottom of the center cartridge. But I'm not finding 2 quarts of oil leaking out there, just a coating. What should I do next? It started happening just 2 oil changes ago so it was quite sudden. Before this the car lost no oil between changes. Just wanted to get some input before I start tearing shit apart.

any blue smoke during hard engine braking? leakdown results?
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any blue smoke during hard engine braking? leakdown results?

zero blue smoke under decel from higher rpms (like a 4th to 3rd downshift). Haven't had a leakdown done since I don't have a tester
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zero blue smoke under decel from higher rpms (like a 4th to 3rd downshift). Haven't had a leakdown done since I don't have a tester

Is there any small spots of oil on the back of the car? Have you checked your catch cans, breather, pcv? Do you beat on the car a lot? (I hope the answer to the last question is yes! :P)

This sounds familiar - MASSSRTs does the same thing. But only loses oil under boost, so there's no drips under the car or smoke or anything of the sort.
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pinhole in one of the oil lines maybe? or a hairline crack in the pan?
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Old 10-23-2009, 09:34 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I've definitely used the car pretty hard . I'm going to go look over everything but as far as i know, there is no cracks in the oil pan (no oil seepage) only oil I find is underneath the turbo right aroudn the oil return gasket, but again I'm not finding 2 quarts of oil anyware. Catch can has a good 1/4 quart in it, but its also got moisture in it as well (all milky brown crap). It accumulated the 1/4 quart from about 3-4 oil changes so not much getting sucked into the motor, or my catch can sucks

I looked at the rear end of the car and did notice black specs everywhere on the paint, my exhaust tips are also blackend but they've always been that way for as long as I remember (thought it was from running so much fuel). Going to put up the car this weekend hopefully and I'll let you guys know if I find anything. Going to try and get a nice leakdown tester too and get that done.
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good luck man! hope the leakdown turns out well.
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I've definitely used the car pretty hard . I'm going to go look over everything but as far as i know, there is no cracks in the oil pan (no oil seepage) only oil I find is underneath the turbo right aroudn the oil return gasket, but again I'm not finding 2 quarts of oil anyware. Catch can has a good 1/4 quart in it, but its also got moisture in it as well (all milky brown crap). It accumulated the 1/4 quart from about 3-4 oil changes so not much getting sucked into the motor, or my catch can sucks

I looked at the rear end of the car and did notice black specs everywhere on the paint, my exhaust tips are also blackend but they've always been that way for as long as I remember (thought it was from running so much fuel). Going to put up the car this weekend hopefully and I'll let you guys know if I find anything. Going to try and get a nice leakdown tester too and get that done.

The black specks are just carbon from the exhaust. It's also why your exhaust tips are black. The exhaust tips should turn white if you put race gas in it, from the lead. What you need to look for is oily spots on the back of the car. They could be any size, but they'll just be... oily, lol. I don't know how else to describe it.

You may only lose the oil under boost. That's what MASSSRT's is doing right now. We checked EVERYTHING, and we can't find anything obvious. The week after we put in the clutch, we stayed out of boost and we lost no oil. You could also try that. We're getting a lot of oil out of the breather, but not sure if it's half a quart to a quart worth. We've also got a little oil under the car and on the back - but we don't see any leaks anywhere. (Not that his motor is the cleanest motor in New England...)
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My car uses a qt. every 1,500mi too..........i would think that'd be acceptable for a turbo'd car thats driven hard w/ 100k on it.
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My car uses a qt. every 1,500mi too..........i would think that'd be acceptable for a turbo'd car thats driven hard w/ 100k on it.



actually, bout the same here, a hard 100k (on the motor, 200k on the car) , bout 1 quart every couple thousand miles
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Only thing I've noticed is on the oil return off the 50 trim there is oil coated around it, the tube, and over the bottom of the center cartridge. .

I've gone through one oil return and two oil feed lines,
the feeds melted on the manifold, and the oil return just like corroded and started leaking bad.
My second oil feed had a pinhole suddenly (I moved it slightly while replacing the return hose) and leaked over a quart in 10 minutes just idling.
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You may only lose the oil under boost. That's what MASSSRT's is doing right now. We checked EVERYTHING, and we can't find anything obvious. The week after we put in the clutch, we stayed out of boost and we lost no oil. You could also try that. We're getting a lot of oil out of the breather, but not sure if it's half a quart to a quart worth. We've also got a little oil under the car and on the back - but we don't see any leaks anywhere.

and some all around the oil pan, which I will check one day
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