He won the 'thanks for not being Bush' award from the rest of the world. Yes we know, Bush and the neo-conservative imperalists in his government made the world feel less safe, less stable.
It's insulting to the other candidates imo. Obama hasn't done enough to deserve this, we still have the patriot act, 2 wars (Afghanistan escalating), warrantless wiretaps, the patriot act.
US citizens still have less freedom compared to 10 years ago. 911 really made our government more authoritarian, more ruthless. He has stated some good intentions, but hasn't delivered. I do find it funny though how the left is now saying Obama hasn't done anywhere near enough for the left wing to be happy and the right is saying he has done far too much.
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Yo dumdum I wasn't a Bush fanboi. I liked some of the things he did, didn't like a lot of other things he did. Obama is attempting to take the "big leap forward" at a speed with which has never been seen. What's your solution?
Mine is to fire nearly everyone in D.C. now, Cap the salaries to 75k. Have elections every 2 years for congress/senate 4 years for POTUS. Max 2 terms for all.
I agree with most of your idealogy, but this would not solve most of the crisis. One of the biggest problems is the most powerful people are not elected officials, therefore we do not have the power to replace them. The ones in charge of the energy companies, the banks, etc. They should be able to run their business however they want, and make as much of a profit that they want. That is fine. So long as they are not linked in any political way. When you begin linking big business to politics, that is when it gets hairy. That is when we are no longer talking about a capitalistic economy, OR a democracy. Because no matter how hard the next guy works he will never be as big as the guy with the politician on his side. And no matter how many people vote in an election, we can never get rid of the guy running Constellation Energy.
The reason I can say these things and still be a conservative, is that our current economical BIG business principles are not those of capitalism. Small business I believe still work pretty much based on capitalism. I own a small business myself. Once you start getting into the heavy hitters, it is a totally different ball game.
The boundaries of our economy are constantly shifting but I do not believe trying to grow beyond those boundaries is good for anyone, which is what this administration is trying to do. It is almost like they believe if we try to do (and I say try because they havent actually done anything) a TON of things, and create a ton of new programs, no one will think about all of the small businesses still going under. Or the fact that the government claims there was no inflation this past year, which means we had 0 economic growth. Or that unemployment is still rising. If everyone has healthcare, who cares if they have jobs. You understand what I am getting at.
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I agree with most of your idealogy, but this would not solve most of the crisis. One of the biggest problems is the most powerful people are not elected officials, therefore we do not have the power to replace them. The ones in charge of the energy companies, the banks, etc. They should be able to run their business however they want, and make as much of a profit that they want. That is fine. So long as they are not linked in any political way. When you begin linking big business to politics, that is when it gets hairy. That is when we are no longer talking about a capitalistic economy, OR a democracy. Because no matter how hard the next guy works he will never be as big as the guy with the politician on his side. And no matter how many people vote in an election, we can never get rid of the guy running Constellation Energy.
The reason I can say these things and still be a conservative, is that our current economical BIG business principles are not those of capitalism. Small business I believe still work pretty much based on capitalism. I own a small business myself. Once you start getting into the heavy hitters, it is a totally different ball game.
The boundaries of our economy are constantly shifting but I do not believe trying to grow beyond those boundaries is good for anyone, which is what this administration is trying to do. It is almost like they believe if we try to do (and I say try because they havent actually done anything) a TON of things, and create a ton of new programs, no one will think about all of the small businesses still going under. Or the fact that the government claims there was no inflation this past year, which means we had 0 economic growth. Or that unemployment is still rising. If everyone has healthcare, who cares if they have jobs. You understand what I am getting at.
GE is one large company that has connections with government and also owns MSNBC for their propaganda.
Every year that goes by our government becomes more corrupt and efforts to stipple freedom and initiatives are slowly going away. Unless it is stopped we will soon be given a small allowance from the Government to live unless you are old and sick. They can just die to end the medicare problem.
NO, I'm not kidding, we need to wake up and follow the Constitution and return to being productive again. Our government is printing money and handing it out to the rich and powerful, a receipt to disaster.
GE is one large company that has connections with government and also owns MSNBC for their propaganda.
Every year that goes by our government becomes more corrupt and efforts to stipple freedom and initiatives are slowly going away. Unless it is stopped we will soon be given a small allowance from the Government to live unless you are old and sick. They can just die to end the medicare problem.
NO, I'm not kidding, we need to wake up and follow the Constitution and return to being productive again. Our government is printing money and handing it out to the rich and powerful, a receipt to disaster.
Think about that statement for a minute.... a trillion dollar bailout to the banks, but it took 5 years to get a homeless shelter setup in Baltimore City.
I agree with most of your idealogy, but this would not solve most of the crisis. One of the biggest problems is the most powerful people are not elected officials, therefore we do not have the power to replace them.
Actually we do. The people that put them there have connections to elected officials. It takes some digging, but their political liaisons can be found out. In fact there's quite an impressive list. What I was amused by is the fervor of the media to make connections to Cheney and Halliburton, when Halliburton is a very skilled company that does things that no other company has experience in, especially to the level that they do. They ignored the fact that Clinton was the first president to use them for no-bid contracts. But now that Obama is in the office, the connections with GE and MSNBC, and all the other far more damning connections to improprieties goes largely ignored. Yet the people don't notice. When dissent is vocalized against Bush, and his policies, it was "patriotic". Now when it's against Obama, it's "racism"
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The ones in charge of the energy companies, the banks, etc. They should be able to run their business however they want, and make as much of a profit that they want. That is fine. So long as they are not linked in any political way. When you begin linking big business to politics, that is when it gets hairy. That is when we are no longer talking about a capitalistic economy, OR a democracy. Because no matter how hard the next guy works he will never be as big as the guy with the politician on his side. And no matter how many people vote in an election, we can never get rid of the guy running Constellation Energy.
Well isn't that the way to ensure more profits? I'm all for profit driven competition. Not at the expense of millions of people. So I agree that politics and business shouldn't mix. This is why I designed a very simple short term program for politicians. Salary caps, and quarterly disclosures to the IRS to make sure that lobbyists aren't paying off their politicians.
The quarterly audits right there would prevent any political hopeful with any nefarious connections from even throwing their hat into the ring. If you're going to be a servant to the people, then you deserve the scrutiny of the people.
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The reason I can say these things and still be a conservative, is that our current economical BIG business principles are not those of capitalism. Small business I believe still work pretty much based on capitalism. I own a small business myself. Once you start getting into the heavy hitters, it is a totally different ball game.
Very well put. Small businesses provide more work to Americans than big business could ever dream of. The shitty thing is on some level we need big business. We need them to be successful, get greedy then fail This roller coaster is what can spur innovation to do it better than the big guys. Giving a chance for smaller companies to make it "big" Now that the all knowing Obama has essentially cut that pendulum, now what happens? ☭hange. We got it now.If ever there was a valid case for "voters remorse" this is it.
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The boundaries of our economy are constantly shifting but I do not believe trying to grow beyond those boundaries is good for anyone, which is what this administration is trying to do. It is almost like they believe if we try to do (and I say try because they havent actually done anything) a TON of things, and create a ton of new programs, no one will think about all of the small businesses still going under. Or the fact that the government claims there was no inflation this past year, which means we had 0 economic growth. Or that unemployment is still rising. If everyone has healthcare, who cares if they have jobs. You understand what I am getting at.
Unfortunately unemployment is closer to double the official estimates from the gov. The official estimates are going to increase somewhere around 11% BEFORE "affordable health care for all" passes (if) and BEFORE the Cap & Trade bill passes (if) If either one passes, watch unemployment spike up to (officially) 14%-15.5% (Much like Spain) If both pass, 20-25% bout near guaranteed. Since the barely passed health care bill is now moving to the senate, and Obama is PLEADING the democrats to not even read it, just act fast and approve it, most of the "Blue Dogs" aren't going to. Doing so would be suicide in 2010. People like Pelosi and Reid, probably don't care f if they get re-elected, they want to leave their positions as "successes" when no other presidency since Johnson could pass socialized medicine in America. Then Pelosi will tout her tenure as speaker, as a success, just like she said that the bill passed was "bi-partisan" with ONE R vote.
I applaud Joe Lieberman for having the balls to filibuster if necessary and the D's won't have all the votes they need to get it to Obama. The 2012 elections will be a repeat of the 80 elections. A landslide win against the incumbent. It may even be an independent this time.
Actually we do. The people that put them there have connections to elected officials. It takes some digging, but their political liaisons can be found out. In fact there's quite an impressive list. What I was amused by is the fervor of the media to make connections to Cheney and Halliburton, when Halliburton is a very skilled company that does things that no other company has experience in, especially to the level that they do. They ignored the fact that Clinton was the first president to use them for no-bid contracts. But now that Obama is in the office, the connections with GE and MSNBC, and all the other far more damning connections to improprieties goes largely ignored. Yet the people don't notice. When dissent is vocalized against Bush, and his policies, it was "patriotic". Now when it's against Obama, it's "racism"
Well isn't that the way to ensure more profits? I'm all for profit driven competition. Not at the expense of millions of people. So I agree that politics and business shouldn't mix. This is why I designed a very simple short term program for politicians. Salary caps, and quarterly disclosures to the IRS to make sure that lobbyists aren't paying off their politicians.
The quarterly audits right there would prevent any political hopeful with any nefarious connections from even throwing their hat into the ring. If you're going to be a servant to the people, then you deserve the scrutiny of the people.
Very well put. Small businesses provide more work to Americans than big business could ever dream of. The shitty thing is on some level we need big business. We need them to be successful, get greedy then fail This roller coaster is what can spur innovation to do it better than the big guys. Giving a chance for smaller companies to make it "big" Now that the all knowing Obama has essentially cut that pendulum, now what happens? ☭hange. We got it now.If ever there was a valid case for "voters remorse" this is it.
Unfortunately unemployment is closer to double the official estimates from the gov. The official estimates are going to increase somewhere around 11% BEFORE "affordable health care for all" passes (if) and BEFORE the Cap & Trade bill passes (if) If either one passes, watch unemployment spike up to (officially) 14%-15.5% (Much like Spain) If both pass, 20-25% bout near guaranteed. Since the barely passed health care bill is now moving to the senate, and Obama is PLEADING the democrats to not even read it, just act fast and approve it, most of the "Blue Dogs" aren't going to. Doing so would be suicide in 2010. People like Pelosi and Reid, probably don't care f if they get re-elected, they want to leave their positions as "successes" when no other presidency since Johnson could pass socialized medicine in America. Then Pelosi will tout her tenure as speaker, as a success, just like she said that the bill passed was "bi-partisan" with ONE R vote.
I applaud Joe Lieberman for having the balls to filibuster if necessary and the D's won't have all the votes they need to get it to Obama. The 2012 elections will be a repeat of the 80 elections. A landslide win against the incumbent. It may even be an independent this time.
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