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Old 08-24-2009, 05:44 PM   #1 (permalink)
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First off, this was done quick, and I did copy/paste on my break. If you read anything, the quotes are so very applicable to the administration today. I bold texted the important parts for you cliff note people. I know this will be a hot topic which is why I made a new thread, as off topic as we got on the other one

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Entrepreneurs and their small enterprises are responsible for almost all the economic growth in the United States. - Ronald Reagan

Republicans believe every day is the Fourth of July, but the democrats believe every day is April 15. - Ronald Reagan

Approximately 80% of our air pollution stems from hydrocarbons released by vegetation, so let's not go overboard in setting and enforcing tough emission standards from man-made sources. - Ronald Reagan

If we ever forget that we are One Nation Under God, then we will be a nation gone under. - Ronald Reagan

Every time the government is forced to act, we lose something in self-reliance, character, and initiative. - Ronald Reagan


Campaign
By 1980, Reagan’s popularity, along with his political and conservative credentials earned him the Republican nomination. He chose Texas Congressman and UN Ambassador George H.W. Bush as his running-mate. Inflation and the hostage crisis in Iran swept the Republican ticket into office. Reagan beat the incumbent Democratic President Jimmy Carter by a landslide – 489 electoral votes for Reagan to just 49 for Carter. (Gentlemen and Socialist…THIS is a mandate!)

First Term
No sooner had Reagan taken office, than the Iranians returned the American hostages. Sixty-nine days into his first term, he was shot by John Hinckley Jr. He quickly recovered and his sense of humor made him an extremely popular political icon. Reagan’s people skills also earned him strong alliances in Congress, not to mention a few strained relationships, but in the end, he obtained legislation that curbed inflation, increased employment, strengthened national defense, cut taxes and reduced federal spending.

Second Term
In 1984, with the economy bustling and consumer confidence at an all-time high, Reagan and Bush roundly defeated Democratic challengers Walter Mondale and Geraldine Ferraro. With a green light from the voters, Reagan overhauled the income tax code, eliminating many deductions but exempting millions of Americans with low incomes. By 1988, the nation had enjoyed the largest recorded period of peacetime prosperity in American history.

Legacy
Although he increased the nation’s defense spending by more than a third, Reagan doggedly sought to improve relations with the Soviet Union and successfully negotiated a treaty with Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev, the called for the elimination of mid-range nuclear missiles. He also was the first American president to identify terrorism as an international threat. He reacted strongly and swiftly after learning Libyan leader Muammar al-Gaddafi was behind an attack on American soldiers in West Berlin.

Reagan will be remembered as the president who reversed the decades-old flow of power to Washington. By dismantling some federal programs, and reducing others, he forced the states and the cities to assume more responsibility for running their own shows. If he failed to break the Democratic hold on Congress, he did force the Democratic Party to move to the right. (HAHAHAHAHA)

When Reagan entered politics virtually every Democrat outside Dixie identified himself, proudly, as a liberal; today, in large part because of Reagan, almost every Democrat in the nation tries to call himself a conservative.

Like Ike and JFK
Comparing Reagan to other presidents produces mixed results. He has been very like Jack Kennedy in a number of ways: cutting taxes to stimulate the economy, accepting large deficits in order to step up the pace of the arms race, indulging in Cold War rhetoric. He has been like Dwight Eisenhower in a number of ways: talking tough while maintaining the peace, using the CIA's covert capabilities rather than the Armed Forces' overt firepower to support his policies in the Third World, using a show of force rather than force itself in the Middle East while attempting to maintain an even-handed policy toward the antagonists. Reagan has also been very like Eisenhower in his tremendous personal popularity, as well as in his inability to use that popularity to promote the Republican Party.

Therein lies the biggest difference between Reagan and Nixon. Many people admired Nixon, almost no one ever liked him. Almost everyone likes Reagan, although not so many admire him. Every scandal in the Nixon administration came home to stick to the president; the Reagan administration's scandals have been more numerous, and in the case of Iran/Contra, more serious, but none of them have stuck to the president.

Like I said, Reagan was the man.

In addition:

He brought down the wall.
Trickle down economics.
Restored the military, the Navy pumped up to 15 carries and 594 ships, not to mention the procurement of other military hardware.
Terrorists released the hostages in Iran.
Momar's not been a problem since Reagan!

I could go on, but I need to get back into the books. I want my next rank so I can keep you pansy socialists with the ability to spout your sedition and treason speak! You're welcome!
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There's no doubt that Reagan was a very good president, but the Iran Contra affair will also taint his administration.

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Agreed. I can't recall any President that didn't have something that the public disagreed with...not to the point of infidelity or out right lying to congress as one "president"

I don't agree with Carters ideals, but at least the man is respectful and respect worthy....Kennedy was a Democrat, but with todays standards he'd be more conservative then anything. Bush Sr/Jr, I didn't always agree with on issues either...so within my lifetime of first hand knowledge, I still believe in the Gipper.

McCain I would have had a hard time defending or liking...he's to moderate for my taste.
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Reagan was either ignorant (not likely), a coward (somewhat likely), or another government puppet of the internationalists (likely).


Education:
Reagan largely contributed to the dumbing-down of American children by allowing the dramatic expansion of the government's role in public education under his term. Read The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America, by Charlotte Iserbyt (Senior Policy Advisor in the Office of Educational Research and Improvement during Reagan's 1st term), who left the federal government with suitcases of documents proving that the public educational system was being changed to warp the minds of children into obedient, non questioning workers for global corporations and the fed. Of course, Reagan was indifferent.

Listen to her here if you don't have time to read the book. this is only #3 out of 8 of this interview, I implore you to watch all 7 if you want a little information on Reagan's educational system:
#1 YouTube - Charlotte Thomson Iserbyt - Dumbing Down of America 1/7
#2 YouTube - Charlotte Thomson Iserbyt - The Dumbing Down of America 2/7
She was a strong 'Reagan conservative' until she worked for his administration.
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#4 YouTube - Charlotte Thomson Iserbyt - The Dumbing Down of America 4/7
#5 YouTube - Charlotte Thomson Iserbyt - The Dumbing Down of America 5/7
#6 YouTube - Charlotte Thomson Iserbyt - The Dumbing Down of America 6/7
#7 YouTube - Charlotte Thomson Iserbyt - The Dumbing Down of America 7/7
My opinion on Reagan in Education? Sure, have big talks about abolition of the Dept. of Education, but then change nothing about the role the federal government (read: the internationalists) plays in coercing public schools and teachers how to teach their children, and simultaneously cut the school systems budget by some 20 percent so to this day schools are an overcrowded, underfunded, socialistic nightmare. Thanks Ronald Reagan! Your neo-conservatives sure love the GOP propaganda tied behind your 'education reform'! We can really see today how well our childrens education has improved thanks to you.

Okay it's late and I don't have the time to finish, so I'll finish up with a few quick points, kind of like how you did your post. If you want to continue this, give me something more to work with than your copy/paste effort when you have time.

Administration picks:
George H.W. Bush - one of my least favorite presidents of all time, one of the most evil men of all time, for a multitude of reasons, there is no way I have the time or room to start listing them off to people here because I always have to start from scratch assuming people have never heard anything about what I'm talking about.

Portland Press Herald | June 6 2004:
H.W. Bush on Reagan's death:
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"Some of the liberals in New York were wringing their hands and going crazy," Bush said. "And sure enough, a lot happened on his watch that was very, very positive towards a new world order, toward a peace."

Assassination attempt:
Carried out by a man intimately tied to the Bush family, with connections to project MKULTRA. The known CIA mind control project. Also not a surprise that GHWB was the CIA head a few years before.

HINCKLEY AND BUSH FAMILIES WERE CLOSE FRIENDS





Why the attempted assassination by a family friend of the Bush family? Good question.
Then again, why was Reagan meeting at Bohemian Grove with Nixon when he was a brand new California Governer in 1967 fresh out of a hollywood career (well, that and giving speeches to General Electric employees. GE being a major player in the New World Order if you knew anything about it)?

SDI - Star Wars:
If you cannot see the negative implications for an overpowered government having the ability to control populations militarily from satellites in space, I don't know what to tell you.

Reagan's new FDA Advisor and Aspartame - one of the most deadly drugs in America:
So what have you heard regarding diet sodas...?


We can ignore Iran/Contra and the massive drug smuggling efforts by the CIA undergone during the Reagan administration that put crack on the innerstreets of America, because I'm sure you know allllll about it, and you already mentioned it.

Ill ignore the economic and military topics until I have proper time to address them, as they are important.
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Reagan was either ignorant (not likely), a coward (somewhat likely), or another government puppet of the internationalists (likely).

Reagan largely contributed to the dumbing-down of American children by allowing the dramatic expansion of the government's role in public education under his term. .

i agree with this vegas, i think this has been happening for awhile now. news entertainment and social networking sites are all helping dumb down america. this is why most college degrees are a joke these days. the schools arent interested in teaching, merely making money
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ok...Not sure how the "Neil had dinner with Scott" thing even really matters here in this situation, but ok. I've had dinner with a girl who's brother was a serial rapist...does that make me a bad soldier?

Dumbing down of America.

Ok, I agree with you here, that this is the worst course of action. Dumbing down people leads to socialism, because they can't maintain a level of knowledge to compete with the motivated and intelligent. I give you SRT4owns as a perfect example, instead of earning it on his own, he'd rather everyone else give it to him.

If we start raising the levels back up, which needs to happen, the "minority and poor people" will start bitching that we are trying to exclude them from becoming wealth or productive. Never mind that it's not only education, but initiative, leadship, motivation, imagination and hard work, to name a few, that are needed to become a prosperous individual.
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I fully plan on sending my kids to private school. Fuck public education..
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ok...Not sure how the "Neil had dinner with Scott" thing even really matters here in this situation, but ok. I've had dinner with a girl who's brother was a serial rapist...does that make me a bad soldier?

Dumbing down of America.

Ok, I agree with you here, that this is the worst course of action. Dumbing down people leads to socialism, because they can't maintain a level of knowledge to compete with the motivated and intelligent. I give you SRT4owns as a perfect example, instead of earning it on his own, he'd rather everyone else give it to him.

If we start raising the levels back up, which needs to happen, the "minority and poor people" will start bitching that we are trying to exclude them from becoming wealth or productive. Never mind that it's not only education, but initiative, leadship, motivation, imagination and hard work, to name a few, that are needed to become a prosperous individual.

Well it goes much further than just the brother having a dinner with the Bush family. Hinckley's father was another Texas oilman who made huge campaign contributions to the Bush family, and supposedly had frequent meetings with the Bushes. I'm not saying that necessarily implicates him... but you get jist of it. That's yet another hell of a coincidence.
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That would make for an interesting read/movie, fact or fiction....kinda like the movie Primary Colors set forth.
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I think Vegas is being a bit generous in saying that Reagan wasn't ignorant.

Reagan was a terrible president.

First of all, regarding his stupid quote about hydrocarbons . . . the kind they emit is isoprene. That's not a greenhouse gas.

Another quote of his is that "Trees cause more pollution than automobiles."

and

"All the waste in a year from a nuclear power plant can be stored under a desk."



Wow, what a moron.


Reagan gives Bush a run for his money as the least environmental president EVER.
Let's also remember a few things Reagan did . . .

1. Gave weapons to Osama bin Laden to help him fight off Russia during the invasion of Afghanistan (gee, that was smart )

2. Gave weapons to Saddam Hussein during the Iraq/Iran war (another really stupid move)

3. the Iran/Contra affair

4. Massive deficit spending

5. Shitty economic policy that even Bush's father derided as "Voodoo economics"

6. The Star Wars SDI, HUGE waste of money

7. Building shitloads of nuclear weapons to "fight" Russia. Granted we never actually invaded them, but we wasted a LOT of money on nuclear weapons. The real reason we "won" the cold war was because of Russia's economic collapse, not because of anything Reagan did

8. Armed right-wing militaries in Latin America that killed thousands of innocent people

I could say more, but this is sufficient. I don't remember his presidency very well since I was only alive for about 3.5 years while he was president.

Bush was the worst president in the last 150 years, to be sure, but Reagan is surely a good runner-up for second place.



They were both stupid to boot.
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CARTER was a terrible president.


1. Gave weapons to Osama bin Laden to help him fight off Russia during the invasion of Afghanistan (gee, that was smart )

no idiot not osama bin ladin, to the mujahadeen, and it worked, the russians got the fuck out of afghanistan and werent able to threaten our interests in the region

2. Gave weapons to Saddam Hussein during the Iraq/Iran war (another really stupid move)
once again another stupid comment, we actually helped the iraqi military to secure our oil interests in iraq. before he became a psycho killer he was a good pawn for the us.
3. the Iran/Contra affair

4. Massive deficit spending
worked out pretty well to jumpstart the economy at the time

5. Shitty economic policy that even Bush's father derided as "Voodoo economics"
may be so today but during his tenure it was effective

6. The Star Wars SDI, HUGE waste of money

precursor to satellite technology which you enjoy to this day (GPS, internet, satellite tv, world media coverage. vital defense weapon systems, some of which are.. can u believe it....classified!?!?!

7. Building shitloads of nuclear weapons to "fight" Russia. Granted we never actually invaded them, but we wasted a LOT of money on nuclear weapons. The real reason we "won" the cold war was because of Russia's economic collapse, not because of anything Reagan did
it was because of Mutuallly Assured Destruction that the cold war never lit off. It was because of all the limited warfare Reagan conducted that bankrupt russia and brought the USSR to its knees. economically stupid.

8. Armed right-wing militaries in Latin America that killed thousands of innocent people
never mind the left wing guerillas such as the FARC, who to this day kill thousands and push drugs into the US that kill thousands more

I could say more, but this is sufficient. I don't remember his presidency very well since I was only alive for about 3.5 years while he was president.
theres a shocker, another topic you have no knowledge about, just something your liberal teachers taught you

Bush was the worst president in the last 150 years, to be sure, but Reagan is surely a good runner-up for second place.

im pretty sure jimmy carter and clinton rank up there as the worst presidents

They were both stupid to boot.
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Whats so funny is that "The Douche" is approx 24 years old. Not even wet behind the ears and he "thinks" he knows whats best for the country. Sadly, he thinks it socialism....and I do believe you all are correct, in that he's reguritating everything the liberal teachers/professors are filling his head with.

It'll be really interesting when he has a job (other then a walmart greeter), a mortgage, kids, wife, car payments etc, all at one time....and he'll be screaming, WHY IS THE GOV'T TAXING THE LIFE OUT OF MY FAMILY.

I hope you grow up someday soon, douche-boi
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Whats so funny is that "The Douche" is approx 24 years old. Not even wet behind the ears and he "thinks" he knows whats best for the country. Sadly, he thinks it socialism....and I do believe you all are correct, in that he's reguritating everything the liberal teachers/professors are filling his head with.

It'll be really interesting when he has a job (other then a walmart greeter), a mortgage, kids, wife, car payments etc, all at one time....and he'll be screaming, WHY IS THE GOV'T TAXING THE LIFE OUT OF MY FAMILY.

I hope you grow up someday soon, douche-boi



Wouldn't it be better to call him an enima? Cause a douche actually involves the vag... something he doesn't like.. haha.
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