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Old 08-30-2009, 06:11 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Media Matters Hit Piece Attempts to Link Alex Jones and Glenn Beck

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On August 28, Media Matters posted a hit piece on Glenn Beck. In the article, Oliver Willis attempts to link the Fox News disinformation operative Beck to Alex Jones. “We’re used to Glenn Beck being ‘out there’, but today’s show was special,” writes Willis. “Beck’s hour (the second day in a row in which he didn’t say a thing about the passing of Sen. Kennedy) was all about the supposed secret army being built by President Obama. This secret army idea, not supported by any facts, though possibly written in invisible ink that Beck can interpret, is a pet cause of fringe radio host Alex Jones.”

In fact, during the election last year, Obama admitted his desire to create a national security force, what Mr. Willis calls a “secret army.” The U.S. “cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we’ve set” and needs a “civilian national security force,” he said. Obama said his national security force needs to be as well funded — to the tune of hundreds of billions of dollars — as the U.S. military. See the video clip below.
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The idea did not disappear after the election. On March 12, during a speech at the National Defense University, Obama said the following: “America must also balance and integrate all elements of our national power. We cannot continue to push the burden on to our military alone, nor leave dormant any aspect of the full arsenal of American capability. And that’s why my administration is committed to renewing diplomacy as a tool of American power, and to developing our civilian national security capabilities.” (Emphasis added.)

It gets worse. In January, without any recognizable corporate media coverage, Rep. Bob Filner, a California Democrat, introduced H.R. 675. The bill would amend title 10 of the United States Code and extend to civilian employees of the Department of Defense the authority to execute warrants, make arrests, and carry firearms. The bill was referred to the Armed Services Committee on January 26, 2009. At approximately the same time, the DoD issued a Defense Directive 1404.10 that establishes a “DoD Civilian Expeditionary Workforce” and rescinds a prior Clinton era directive dealing with the emergency use of civilian personnel. The Obama administration describes the Civilian Expeditionary Workforce as follows:

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Members of the DoD Civilian Expeditionary Workforce shall be organized, trained, cleared, equipped, and ready to deploy in support of combat operations by the military; contingencies; emergency operations; humanitarian missions; disaster relief; restoration of order; drug interdiction; and stability operations of the Department of Defense in accordance with DoDD 3000.05

In other words, Congress is busy proposing bills that would accomplish what Obama announced during his campaign speech in Colorado.

Mr. Willis and the Clintonite organized Media Matters are uncomfortable with the facts. Here is another one — the Obamas have organized a cadre for a civilian national security force since 1993. It’s called Public Allies and is modeled after the communistSaul Alinsky’s “people’s organizations.” It is under the watchful eye of Michelle Obama. It has received $75 millionper year from private donors, including the Rockefellers and the Ford Foundation.

In the lead up to the election, budding activists in the Marxist tradition of Alinsky were sent to Camp Obama. “Obama is not like other candidates, and part of this training is learning to mimic the methods he used before he was an elected official — back when he was a community organizer in Chicago following the textbook of legendary agitator Saul Alinsky,” the Chicago Sun Timesreported in September, 2007. Camp Obama was described as a “national program for social change,” no doubt of the sort envisioned by Alinksy, who once said: “From all our legends, mythology, and history… the first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom – Lucifer.”

Incidentally, taking money from globalists and bankers is not a problem for Media Matters. In 2005, CNS Newsuncovered the fact David Brock, the former conservative turned liberal and Media Matters CEO, had taken money from the arch globalist George Soros. In addition, Media Matters receives money from Democracy Alliance. George Soros is a memberof this “progressive” organization.

Rahm Emanuel, Obama’s chief of staff, wrote a book entitled “The Plan: Big Ideas for America.” In the book, Emanuel states: “It’s time for a real Patriot Act that brings out the patriot in all of us. We propose universal civilian service for every young American. Under this plan, all Americans between the ages of 18 and 25 will be asked to serve their country by going through three months of basic training, civil defense preparation and community service.” (Emphasis added.)

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Emanuel calls this a “new social contract,” that is to say an obligation imposed on the people by the government. “If you forget everything else you read in these pages, please remember this: The Plan starts with you. If your leaders aren’t challenging you to do your part, they aren’t doing theirs. We need a real Patriot Act that brings out the patriot in all of us by establishing, for the first time, an ethic of universal citizen service,” writes Rahmbo. “Universal citizen service will bring Americans of every background together to make America safer and more united in common purpose.”

It’s a “common purpose” envisioned by George Soros, the communist Alinksy, the Ford Foundation, and globalist “progressives.”

Mr. Willis declares there is nothing sinister about AmeriCorps, created under former president Clinton — a member in good standingwith the Council on Foreign Relations, the Trilateral Commission, and the Bilderberg Group. Clinton’s administration was a virtual Who’s Who of CFR members and globalists, apparently a good thing for liberals like Mr. Willis.

Here’s what Willis and Media Matters didn’t tell you about AmeriCorps — the legislation initially called for “a workable, fair, and reasonable mandatory service requirement for all able young people.” It anticipated requiring “all individuals in the United States” to become indentured servants for the government – including elementary school students. A Washington Examiner editorial on March 26, 2009, stated:

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The bill also summons up unsettling memories of World War II-era paramilitary groups by saying the new program should “combine the best practices of civilian service with the best aspects of military service,” while establishing “campuses” that serve as “operational headquarters,” complete with “superintendents” and “uniforms” for all participants. It allows for the elimination of all age restrictions in order to involve Americans at all stages of life. And it calls for creation of “a permanent cadre” in a “National Community Civilian Corps.”

In short, the people who wrote the bill had the same totalitarian mindset as Joe Stalin and Mao.

No mention of the original bill or the mindset of its authors in Mr. Willis’ hit piece against Glenn Beck and Alex Jones. He mentions the fact George W. Bush was all for AmeriCorps and even met with AmeriCorps volunteers for Earth Day. But then “progressives” and those mesmerized by the false right-left paradigm always insist there is a difference between Democrats and Republicans and between Obama and Bush — never mind virtually nothing has changed under Obama, not the twin occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan, not the unconstitutional surveillance of the American people, not the torture camps and the murder of hundreds of people in Pakistan — and certainly not the bogus global war on terror (although Obama’s people decided to play a semantic game with the term).

Finally, the article posted on the Media Matters website is a transparent effort to link Alex Jones to the Fox News disinformation operative Glenn Beck and thus discredit him. As a slick disinfo operative, Beck is tasked with taking down the truth and patriot movements by agreeing with their basic arguments while coming off as a kook that can be easily criticized and lampooned by the so-called “liberal” media, thus inflicting damage on the patriot community.

Addendum

Regardless of the philosophy of the Marxist Saul Alinsky, Obama is not a communist, a fact underscored by the heavy presence of CFR and Bilderberg members in his administration.

Lawrence Summers, the Director of the White House’s National Economic Council, is a former Chief Economist at the World Bank and Deputy Secretary of the Treasury under his long-time political mentor Robert Rubin, the former Director and Senior Counselor of Citigroup and Chairmen of Goldman Sachs. Summers is a member of the CFR. Timothy Geithner, the current United States Secretary of the Treasury, was previously the president of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York. Geithner also worked for Kissinger and Associates. In 2002 he left the Treasury to join the Council on Foreign Relations as a Senior Fellow in the International Economics department and was director of the Policy Development and Review Department at the International Monetary Fund.

“The council has gained a virtual lock-hold on the U.S. government, regardless of which party is in office,” writes John McManus. “No other organization comes close to boasting the kind of clout that the CFR members have held: eight presidents of the U.S.; seven vice presidents; 17 secretaries of state; 20 secretaries of war/defense; 18 secretaries of the Treasury; 15 directors of the CIA. And on it has gone throughout the Cabinets, in seriatim — through Democrat and Republican administrations — with hundreds of deputy secretaries, assistant secretaries, etc.”

One of Obama’s professors at Columbia Universality and an ardent supporter of his campaign — and his early foreign policy adviser — was Zbigniew Brzezinski. Brzezinski cofounded the Trilateral Commission with David Rockefeller, a director of numerous multinational corporations and “endowment funds” and a central figure in the Council on Foreign Relations.

“If the Council on Foreign Relations could be said to be a spawning ground for the concepts of one-world idealism, then the Trilateral Commission was the ‘task force’ assembled to assault the beachheads. Already the Commission had placed its members in the top posts the U.S. had to offer.” writes Patrick Wood.

Bankers and one-worlders are not communists in the traditional sense, although they have traditionally used that political ideology to consolidate and centralize power and influence.

“If one understands that socialism is not a share-the-wealth program, but is in reality a method to consolidate and control the wealth, then the seeming paradox of super-rich men promoting socialism becomes no paradox at all. Instead, it becomes logical, even the perfect tool of power-seeking megalomaniacs,” wrote the late Gary Allen. “Communism or more accurately, socialism, is not a movement of the downtrodden masses, but of the economic elite.”







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Old 08-30-2009, 06:42 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I think he will respond with, "that's crazy, using all those facts just to prove your point"
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you know the world has gone mad when alex jones is factual and accurate.....say what you want about his views of how the world is being run, but he often does post factual information.
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media matters = funded by rockafeller globalists and george soros etc.....
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yeah im just waiting to see the whole movie it amazes me how bad things have got so quick, crooked ass politicians fuck goverment hahaa
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Which is it communist or fascist? Perhaps you mean authoritarian. Bush was far more authoritarian than Obama has been so far, I guess you guys didn't object to the loss of habeas corpus or warrant-less wiretaps but some whacko communist conspiracy is worth freaking out about (reds under the beds huh).

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“Communism or more accurately, socialism, is not a movement of the downtrodden masses, but of the economic elite.” I am getting sick of right wingers who are barely politically literate spouting this crap. When corporation and government merge you have mussolini style fascism. It is not socialism/corporatism. Nothing in communist Russia was corporatist. You people need to stop making up things and go read some of the basics of political theory. Seriously it's like listening to a babbling nutjob who has no grounding in reality and political science.
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Once President Clinton signs the legislation approved today [April 19, 1996] by the House restricting appeals by death-row inmates and other prisoners, he will be imposing the most vigorous constraints on the constitutional right to seek Federal review of convictions since Lincoln suspended the writ of habeas corpus in the Civil War....

The legislation includes many provisions that the President wants and that civil rights groups find objectionable. For example, it would permit the Government to deport suspected terrorists without presenting a judge with the evidence used against them; it would authorize the Government to freeze the assets of foreign organizations that the Administration considers terrorist, and it would permit the Government to exclude foreigners who belong to suspected terrorist organizations from entering the United States, even if there is no evidence that they had broken the law.


Bush went back in time and suspended habeas corpus while clinton was in office
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Quote: Originally Posted by fugazzied View Post
Which is it communist or fascist? Perhaps you mean authoritarian. Bush was far more authoritarian than Obama has been so far, I guess you guys didn't object to the loss of habeas corpus or warrant-less wiretaps but some whacko communist conspiracy is worth freaking out about (reds under the beds huh).

And what is this crap...
“Communism or more accurately, socialism, is not a movement of the downtrodden masses, but of the economic elite.” I am getting sick of right wingers who are barely politically literate spouting this crap. When corporation and government merge you have mussolini style fascism. It is not socialism/corporatism. Nothing in communist Russia was corporatist. You people need to stop making up things and go read some of the basics of political theory. Seriously it's like listening to a babbling nutjob who has no grounding in reality and political science.

I didn't object to the loss of Habeas Corpus, or warrantless wiretaps against foreigners or those that are seeking to do US citizens harm. I could care less if terrorists have rights, in fact they shouldn't. Once we interrogate them they should be put to death. End of problem.

I agree with you, Socialism is not a movement of the "economic elite" but it IS a movement by the "have nots," perpetuated by a gov't that see's a way to make the people beholden to them, thereby ensuring their jobs.
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Funny thing is that the restored habeas corpus rights to the terrorists at gitmo but the specifically exempted the provisions set forth in the domestic terrorist bill that clinton signed. WTF? Some camel fucker in cuba has more rights than we do. Thanks Bill.
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Quote: Originally Posted by fugazzied View Post
Which is it communist or fascist? Perhaps you mean authoritarian. Bush was far more authoritarian than Obama has been so far, I guess you guys didn't object to the loss of habeas corpus or warrant-less wiretaps but some whacko communist conspiracy is worth freaking out about (reds under the beds huh).



Actually, no, I didn't mean authoritarian. I chose the terms communism and fascism for a very distinct reason. One of course that you surely do not have the educational or political background to pick up.

...and Bush wasn't 'more authoritarian' than Obama, they are quite the same, you're just a silly entranced left winger.

Third, your understanding of our existing rights of habeas corpus at the time of the patriot act is at best shaky, but I'll leave that alone because you're right, Bush did to terrible things to the principle, and to our rights.

Quote: Originally Posted by fugazzied View Post
And what is this crap...
“Communism or more accurately, socialism, is not a movement of the downtrodden masses, but of the economic elite.” I am getting sick of right wingers who are barely politically literate spouting this crap. When corporation and government merge you have mussolini style fascism. It is not socialism/corporatism. Nothing in communist Russia was corporatist. You people need to stop making up things and go read some of the basics of political theory. Seriously it's like listening to a babbling nutjob who has no grounding in reality and political science.

Actually, even though you are right about the definition of fascism, which is a clear definition of many of the properties we have in our own government, your lack of understanding about communism and socialism is depressing.

If you think socialism OR communism actually is a fuzzy loving way to give power or free things to the downtrodden masses, and not the political elite, I'd love to hear your 'progressive' explanation. Wait, no, actually I wouldn't... I'm pretty sure I've heard that propaganda way too often.

Finally, I may be considered a 'right winger' by some, but I rarely ever agree with anything that comes out of Cobens mouth. Please don't try to lump me in with him like a typical false left-right wing paradigm believer would. I find him about as right wing as John McCain... in other words an authoritarian in disguise.

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Thanks for the compliment Vegas....

I guess to some point I AM Authoritarian, but only as far as it affects MY pocket. I could care less what you, or any other nut case does, as long as it doesn't cost ME money. Do you get that yet?

So once again, I am more Conservative then I am anything else. I believe everyone should strive to follow the law, weather you agree with it or not, and effect change though voting and lobbying your legislators.

I wish I could find that political test that puts you into a category based on your answers.
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